[tfecw]

Hmm i would have though a fence would do a better job than a piece of plastic that you have to show when you try and buy beer, smokes, porn, or get a job. On the last one you've got a pretty good chance of not being carded.

Besides, I've got my drivers licenses, SS card, passport, and library card. I don't need the feds spending 234 billion dollars a year to issue another card. My wallet is running out of room.

[ctdonath2]

Passport should be enough, and that only for crossing national borders.

SSN? I want out of the pyramid scheme; keep the money, I just don't want to put any more in.

Library card? Haven't been to a library in years (internet + bookstores is plenty).

Driver's license? I'll tolerate that one - so long as it is ONLY used as proof I know how to drive.

Beer, smokes, etc.? At 37, it's pretty friggin' obvious I'm an adult. Don't waste my time pretending you don't know I'm not under 18/21/whatever.

Job? ID is only required so the feds are assured they'll get half my income. Go back to what the Constitution originally intended: the states pay up, and it's their problem where that money comes from. Besides, ID is only required if you work _for_ someone; running one's own business does not require SSN (given the proper financial arrangement).