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To: ItsOurTimeNow

A) My own words say nothing about justifying spiritual laziness as you dishonestly or mistakenly claimed;

B) You are simply wrong and have not read the Bible with understanding. Go read WHY Jesus taught in parables and also read that he had to explain them to his disciples because even they often couldn't understand his point. No, not everyone is ready for the deeper truths and some will never be;

C) Those with experience ministering to people know that people who don't stay hungry for the word won't continue in their quest. That point is self evident even in the physical life. Thursday you will find millions of Americans that will reach a point that they will refuse to look at food. This is possible spiritually, people can get so filled in the head that they don't continue.

D) You don't seem to realize that just as plants grow and different rates depending on many variables, so do people. Some are going to be saved and happy just knowing that Jesus died for them and rose again. When they are ready, if they eveer get ready, they will go on but not before and no amount of dogging them will change that. In fact, pressure at the wrong time will chase them away. A GOOD pastor knows how to tend the flock and my guess is that you are not a pastor.

You need to read more carefully, more prayerfully and get some understanding. It would also do you good to serve people, especially some of the weakest of the flock and make them stronger instead of demanding that they try to run at the same pace as the rest.

I do not believe that continuing this is beneficial or profitable, at least not on the public forum.


271 posted on 11/22/2005 2:53:45 PM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: Eagle Eye

A) They most certainly do. Whether or not it was your intent is on your head. What you wrote attempts to give an excuse for those who don't desire anything further, or who were never saved in the first place.

B) Of course there is a learning curve, I'm not debating htat. I'm debating your implication that some will never desire to learn. I call that bunk - there is no such thing as a Christian who doesn't desire to learn more and seek God's own heart. I've given you many biblical references to back up my point, you have used none. Your argument is driven by emotion, rather than God's word.

C) A lack of hunger for the word, as it relates to the saved Christian is a matter of obedience to God, not teaching style or reaching a "full point". Utter bunk to suggest that God's chosen will reach a point where they no longer desire fulfillment.

D) I've given you numerous Biblical references which illustrate just the opposite. You have not backed up anything you're claiming with Scriptural Truth, so my impression is that it is you, sir, who needs to spend more time in the word and learn about Chistian Accountability.

Do not pretend to know a single thing about me or what my role is within my church, because you're just showing your ignorance at this point. You can be content with "fat, dumb, and happy", but unfortunately that is a very unbiblical way of looking at the process of sanctification.

Superficial faith leads to superficial progress and is the result of superficial worship. Dig deeper.


283 posted on 11/23/2005 5:15:52 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow (Aslan is on the move...)
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