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To: Warren_Piece

I would say that if all those things were being done, and being done from Godly motives, then the congregation would see no need for pop-christianity tunes, and would grit their teeth at the sugary-sweetness of them.

I would say that congregation is on spiritual meat, and has no need for powdered milk.

>>Anyway, I agree that seeker churches are empty calories, but I also believe that once someone is truly saved, they'll be moved by the spirit to leave for a deeper kind of worship.<<

Why would any God-fearing church be satisfied with scriptural shallowness and surface-level worship? I simply don't understand the argument for the need of "starter-churches", and I certainly wouldn't have anything to do with one who was satisfied being a first-stage church only.

After I was saved, I left our "seeker" church for a more theologically sound church. Not because I was "ready" to move on to phase 2, but because with my new eyes I saw the blatant apostacy of the church we were in and it offended me. As the spiritual leader of my family, I was wracked with the obligation to lead my family to a solid church rooted in sound doctrine.

This isn't fun n' games, this is eternity we're talking here. There was no time to waste.


200 posted on 11/22/2005 11:23:08 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow (Aslan is on the move...)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
Why would any God-fearing church be satisfied with scriptural shallowness and surface-level worship? I simply don't understand the argument for the need of "starter-churches", and I certainly wouldn't have anything to do with one who was satisfied being a first-stage church only.

Maybe for the same reason we have 'kiddy-garden' as well as grad school.

Spiritually not everyone is ready for the 'deeper truths' and some will never be.

Is there no place for someone who just gets saved and likes to sit in church, feel good and praise the Lord?

We all don't need to learn Latin, Greek or Estrangelo Aramaic in order to serve, do we?

203 posted on 11/22/2005 11:29:51 AM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

"This isn't fun n' games, this is eternity we're talking here. There was no time to waste."

Let me add this. The more I am aware of what Christianity means, the more I realize that I am indeed a sinner, separated entirely from God were it not for His unilateral grace. I desire sanctification...and I know that Scripture is the best tool to accomplish that. In other words, I need to be dealt with harshly, that is Biblically, if progress is going to be made. I WANT to be reminded as often as possible what the Bible requires, because it certainly doesn't come naturally.

Yet...the irony being...the harder way...is the better one. Just feeling good just isn't all that it is cracked up to be.


209 posted on 11/22/2005 11:39:25 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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