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To: o_zarkman44
People don't realize how intricate the American economic system is. Without American consumers supporting American workers, every American business suffers a loss of potential, a loss of profit, a loss of marketshare. And since Every American consumer is also an American worker, we must support the perpetual motion of our economy. Dollars flow from consumer to business and from business back to consumer in the terms of wages.

You really don't have any concept of how the economy works, do you? You think we should spend more money on more expensive, union items simply because they are made here. Well, if you think about what you wrote, it would be an economic disaster. If people here decided to buy more American made items, even though they cost more, that means people will buy fewer items. People have a limited amount of money to spend. That means fewer sales of American items if they cost more. If you take the superior quality of foreign made cars (for example) then people have even less money to spend since more will be going into car repairs and replacement automobiles. Or the used market will grow at the expense of the new market.

What is unpatriotic are the unions who wrap themselve in the flag in order to try to get more money for a product that can be bought more cheaply elsewhere. If American companies and unions were so interested in serving America's needs, why can't they bite the bullet, and cut their wages and costs so they can compete against foreign companies instead of whining and complaining that consumers aren't buying their stuff anymore. When someone tries to guilt me into buying something, I view their product with double suspicion. After all, why the guilt trip if the product is competitive with everyone else.

It really jerks me that people like you think that someone making $10 an hour are obligated to spend more than they can afford in order to keep some union guy in his $25 an hour job.

40 posted on 11/22/2005 12:27:41 PM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: doc30

"It really jerks me that people like you think that someone making $10 an hour are obligated to spend more than they can afford in order to keep some union guy in his $25 an hour job."

Whoa. You missed my point entirely.

I am saying that people who earn $10.00 an hour are not the ones supporting the economy, it is the $25.00 hourly jobs that support our economy.

Chances are the low wage earners rent and do not own homes.
They may be more prone to live in higher crime areas. Their children may not have the opportunities in school because their parents cannot afford their participation in extra curricular activities.

Chances are the low wage earners are not buying new cars, but driving older, high maintainance low efficiency vehicles. They are more likely to have uninsured vehicles.
Or they use public transportation, which is funded by the taxes of the $25.00 and above class.

Chances are the low wage earner does not have health insurance, so they show up at the ER for basic medical care, and don't pay their bill. They drive up the cost of health care to all, including the insured.

Chances are, the low wage earner collects food stamps and/or rent subsidy and is more likely to need public assistance. This cost is billed to ALL working people in the form of higher taxes.

My concept of the economy is perfectly well understood.
I am not saying that burger flippers or other unskilled positions should make $25.00 an hour. Entry level jobs are necessary to train our youth to be responsible workers. But people need to have the ability to advance their living standards as they gain experience.

I glanced through the local job classifieds in last nights newspaper. The majority of the jobs listed were for $10.00 an hour or less. Yes there were some skilled jobs like programmers and nurses which obviously pay much more than the majority of the job listings. But there were several skilled jobs like construction and welders with the advertised wage of $10.00 an hour. That amounts to $18,000 a year which is WAY below the median wage in America.

Can you imagine trying to support a wife and baby on that kind of wage? The woman cannot work because daycare eats up her paycheck. Exactly how much can this family contribute to our economy?

So we subsidize the low wage earner with our taxes and brush them aside.

Damn those high paying jobs. They really drain our economy don't they? Buying power gives us the ability to shop around for the best price. You have a flawed concept that just because people buy higher priced items they have less disposable income. Looks like the person earning $25.00 an hour has 60% more to spend than the person earning $10.00.
Of course this does not account for taxes which the low wage earner probably pays few if they have a family.

Another item to consider. What kind of wages are the foreign workers earning that produce those cheap goods you like to spend your money on? What is the standard of living in that country? What is the human rights record of that country? Are they a Democracy, a dictatorship, socialist? What are the transportation costs of the goods they ship? How much energy does trans oceanic shipping consume? What kind of export subsidys or import restrictions are imposed? Is there such a thing as free trade anymore?

Do we want to raise the standard of living of the 3rd world at the expense of bringing down our own standard of living? That is exactly what is happening when one shops price instead of national pride.






44 posted on 11/23/2005 8:28:12 AM PST by o_zarkman44
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