Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

War foes' 'cheap talk' may bring new vote
THE WASHINGTON TIMES ^ | November 22, 2005 | By Stephen Dinan

Posted on 11/22/2005 6:37:25 AM PST by .cnI redruM

The Republican who initiated last week's overwhelming House vote to keep U.S. troops in Iraq said he will do it again if Democrats don't cease their calls for withdrawal.

"If they start this again, we'll call the vote again," said Rep. J.D. Hayworth, Arizona Republican, whom members credited with suggesting holding a vote. "As far as I'm concerned, if they haven't learned from this, if they go back to this cheap talk, I would be more than happy to call for another vote."

Rep. John P. Murtha, Pennsylvania Democrat, said Thursday that the U.S. should start withdrawing from Iraq, but the House voted 403-3 the next day to reject immediate withdrawal. Republicans say the vote both bolstered the troops' mission and recaptured the political momentum on the issue.

(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cheaptalk; cheaptalkdemocrats; copperheads; democratcopperheads; democrathacks; democratquislings; quislings
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041 next last
The Dems should just vote their hearts if JD does this again. Tell America how they really feel....
1 posted on 11/22/2005 6:37:26 AM PST by .cnI redruM
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: .cnI redruM

amen!


2 posted on 11/22/2005 6:37:59 AM PST by harpu
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: .cnI redruM
The Dems should just vote their hearts if JD does this again. Tell America how they really feel....

No. That would involve burning the Reichstag (Congress) and installing Hillary as Fuhrer.

3 posted on 11/22/2005 6:39:24 AM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: peyton randolph
Well, they don't have to be that enthusiastic about it.
4 posted on 11/22/2005 6:40:12 AM PST by .cnI redruM (Sticking a microphone in front of (Terrell) Owens is like giving a crackhead a spoonful.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: .cnI redruM

"The Republican leadership did a masterful job of manipulating and distorting Representative Murtha's vote, somewhat similar to what we saw with the administration's manipulation of intelligence with the case they used to justify the war," said Jim Manley, a spokesman for Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, Nevada Democrat.
*ROFLMAO*


5 posted on 11/22/2005 6:40:57 AM PST by mosquitobite (As the Iraqis stand up, we will stand down.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: .cnI redruM

If Zarquari is dead and the Democrats voted their conscience, who would they vote for?


6 posted on 11/22/2005 6:41:40 AM PST by When do we get liberated? ((God save us from the whining, useless, irrelevent left...))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: .cnI redruM
I also love this:

[Hayworth] proposed the idea at the House Republican Conference meeting Friday morning.
A Republican aide said the final decision to go ahead was made that afternoon at a meeting, in which top House Republican leaders and committee chairmen decided something had to be done.
"The message out of that meeting was either we play offense or we play defense. And right now we need to play offense," the aide said. "It stopped the momentum the Democrats were trying to generate."

7 posted on 11/22/2005 6:43:00 AM PST by mosquitobite (As the Iraqis stand up, we will stand down.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: .cnI redruM

I was writing a note for my son for school this morning and dated it, realizing with a piercing of sadness -it's an anniversary of JFK's assassination. As the morning wore on I thought about this irony: JFK charged: "Ask not what your country can do for you, as what YOU can do for your country" and today's democrats are just oppositional, intoning all the time, "ask what you country has done for lately." Pretty pathetic how far democrats have strayed from the right track.


8 posted on 11/22/2005 6:48:59 AM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: .cnI redruM

Finally someone is listening to me. Just as I suggested here on Free Republic the other day: keep calling for these votes until the Dims tremble when one of their moonbat loons escapes and goes running off at the mouth. This would force the Dim leadership (such as it is) to keep their loons in check and force the media to demand responsiblility from the Dims they love.

JD Hayworth for President!


9 posted on 11/22/2005 6:50:59 AM PST by BlueYonder
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: .cnI redruM
Mark my words...

Murtha's cut-and-run speeches are going to sink the DemocRAT party. With this, they have joined al Qaeda and deserted our men/women in the field. They and the MSM have sunk the knife in our backs... and now, will carry it forever.

10 posted on 11/22/2005 6:57:10 AM PST by johnny7 (“You have a corpse in a car, minus a head, in the garage. Take me to it.”)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: .cnI redruM

Hayworth blew it on Paula Zahn's show last night. (CNN)

To paraphrase, Zahn said that a top general (JCOS?) announced Iraq only had 5-700 trained security force members (a DNC point the MSM has been repeating over and over and over).

Hayworth had the perfect opportunity to point out Iraqi Security Forces have many (90?) functional battalions, with just a handful of American advisors in each unit.

He said something like, "Well, this just provides incentive for us to train more Iraqis," then went on about American troop were best trained, etc.

Our Republican politicians need to be better prepared than your average Freeper if they're going to venture into enemy territory. This was one of the few times a Republican congressman was going to have a one-on-one interview on CNN without some dimwit Democrat (besides Zahn) screaming 'Bush lied and you're wrong" during the dee-bate.

Of course, at the end the interview, Zahn did her usual "Republicans are idiots tisk and a sigh" and looked down in disbelief as she went to break. (She learned it from Judy Woodruff).


11 posted on 11/22/2005 7:01:54 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (#1 Rule in Dealing with the Media, Democrats and Terrorists: Can't Please 'Em, so Don't Appease 'Em.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rightinthemiddle

Paula who? Is she on tv? Oh, she is on CXX at 8:00 PM and how large is her viewing audience? OK, then.


12 posted on 11/22/2005 7:22:52 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: rightinthemiddle

So, is it really lonely watching KNN - by yourself?


13 posted on 11/22/2005 7:29:32 AM PST by harpu
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: mosquitobite
Monday, my husband was accosted on the street in La Crosse, WI as he went to lunch, by an antiwar person with a petition demanding withdrawal. He ranted that the Republicans had
scheduled the vote to sandbag the moonbats' plan for a coordinated nationwide protest for withdrawal that was supposed to be launched immediately following Murtha's speech.

DH commented that the vote had been taken, we had a sense of the Congress and that was that; the vote would not come up again. The activist sighed and said, "Yeah, I know."

BTW, this guy was dressed in an Army jacket, minus any insignia, and a Mao hat, minus the red star. We wondered if anyone under 40 would recognize a Mao hat without being told what it was.

It has to be enriching Big Pharma for all the ulcer meds these idiots must need by now. Every one of their plots to bring down the administration and force us to lose this war has failed dramatically and their lapdog Progressive media buddies are on the unemployment lines!
14 posted on 11/22/2005 7:40:22 AM PST by reformedliberal (Bless our troops and pray for our nation.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: USS Alaska

Her viewing audience is large enough to affect, over a period of time, many crucial elections in the country. She's on at 7:00 CST, btw. She's on in airports. She's on in restaurants. She's a pretty face that the channel surfer stops and listens to for a few minutes. More people heard that interview than visited FR yesterday.

We can crow all we want about the death of the Lamestream Media, but they're doing a good job of dragging W right now. It only takes three "impressions" of a consistent message to affect the mind of the uninformed viewer. The affects are cumulative, not intantaneous.

They, and the other liberals in the media, also control the much of the news on the internet. I have MSN at home. Everytime I log on, I see headlines bashing Bush, Republicans and conservatives.

Preaching to the choir makes us feel good. But, unlike some other Freepers, I like to know what the enemy is up to and don't take them for granted.


15 posted on 11/22/2005 7:42:02 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (#1 Rule in Dealing with the Media, Democrats and Terrorists: Can't Please 'Em, so Don't Appease 'Em.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: harpu

KNN has a lot more impact on public sentiment and voting patterns than FR.

Just because WE don't watch it (I was channel surfing and saw J.D.) doesn't mean undecideds and casual voters don't.


16 posted on 11/22/2005 7:44:26 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (#1 Rule in Dealing with the Media, Democrats and Terrorists: Can't Please 'Em, so Don't Appease 'Em.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: rightinthemiddle
Spoken like a true jounalist!

However, ratings are ratings...and KNN IS ON ITS ASS!

17 posted on 11/22/2005 7:52:41 AM PST by harpu
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: .cnI redruM

If it is true that Rep. Murtha was largely responsible for getting President Clinton to withdraw U. S. combat forces from Somolia, then this important information should be documented and given wide publicity on this website and elsewhere.


18 posted on 11/22/2005 7:55:22 AM PST by mohresearcher
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: harpu

No dispute there. We just bought CNN and Fox News for our clients yesterday.

Fox News :30 spots cost 50 percent more. (I always buy Fox...clients love it, too).

But, we CANNOT ignore the LSM. We're talking a three percent swing in elections, either way.


19 posted on 11/22/2005 7:55:32 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (#1 Rule in Dealing with the Media, Democrats and Terrorists: Can't Please 'Em, so Don't Appease 'Em.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: harpu

BTW...not a journalist. I'm in advertising. VOO-DOO stuff that works.


20 posted on 11/22/2005 7:56:35 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (#1 Rule in Dealing with the Media, Democrats and Terrorists: Can't Please 'Em, so Don't Appease 'Em.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson