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Prosecutors Say Pa. Girl Wasn't Kidnapped
Associated Press ^ | Monday, November 21, 2005 | MARK SCOLFORO

Posted on 11/21/2005 4:23:43 PM PST by Peace4EarthNow

LANCASTER, Pa. - A 14-year-old girl whose 18-year-old boyfriend allegedly fatally shot her parents left willingly with him after the slayings and was not kidnapped, prosecutors said in court papers filed Monday.

Kara Borden told detectives she left of her own free will, according to the filing. David Ludwig told detectives the two planned to get married and start a new life together.

Ludwig confessed to the slayings after his arrest and told police where to find the murder weapon in his car, according to court documents released Monday in Indiana.

In court documents filed in Pennsylvania, prosecutors said Kara Borden ran from her home to get into Ludwig's car after the Nov. 13 shootings.

"(Kara) told the defendant that she wanted to stay with him, and they drove west with the intent to 'get as far away as possible, get married, and start a new life,'" Ludwig told detectives, according to the court papers.

District Attorney Donald Totaro said Monday the kidnapping charge against Ludwig, of Lititz, will be dropped at his preliminary hearing next month.

Earlier Monday, Indiana authorities released a search warrant affidavit for the car the couple drove nearly 600 miles from the murder scene in central Pennsylvania to Indiana.

Ludwig told Indiana State Police that a Glock semiautomatic pistol he used to kill Michael and Cathryn Borden was under the driver's front seat of his parents' car, according to the affidavit.

Police seized a .40-caliber Glock pistol, a .223-caliber rifle and several articles of black clothing under a search warrant executed Wednesday. Under a separate search warrant executed Friday, police said they found a .45-caliber Colt pistol, a screwdriver, several maps and two Indiana license plates.

Ludwig told police that there were several guns in the car.

"He certainly did make a statement and cooperated with police," said Hendricks County (Ind.) prosecutor Patricia A. Baldwin. "They basically let him talk is what they did."

Police have said the murder weapon was a .40-caliber handgun.

Ludwig is being held without bail, awaiting a Dec. 16 preliminary hearing on charges that he shot the Bordens in their home in Lititz on Nov. 13. Police allege the shootings occurred after an argument over Ludwig's relationship with Kara Borden.

Police caught up to Ludwig and Borden Nov. 14 after a chase that ended with him crashing the car into a tree in Belleville, Ind.

James Gratton, a public defender representing Ludwig, said he was aware that his client had given a statement to Indiana authorities, but did not know specifically what he told them.

Neither Ludwig nor the girl, who has not been charged, was injured in the crash.

Investigators said previously they were treating Kara Borden as a crime victim but that the investigation was continuing.

In a court filing Friday, Ludwig's attorneys said they wanted investigators to preserve evidence in Ludwig's wallet, such as receipts from their journey, so that surveillance video could be obtained. The video would show that he didn't kidnap the girl, the attorneys said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: davidludwig; karabethborden; karaborden; kidnapping; ludwig; pennsylvania
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To: ALWAYSWELDING

IF she was 14 and lived in the era of BEAVER CLEAVER it would be shocking but kids see so much violence and killing today it is like what beating someone up was 25 years ago, so it's easy for a 14 yr old in 2005 to be totally mixed up on what she did without a grasp of the repercussions.


41 posted on 11/21/2005 5:01:30 PM PST by laney (little bit country,little bit Rock and Roll!)
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To: All

I'm more disturbed that Sara didn't consider her siblings in all this. Why not just run away? Why did these parents need to die? Because 2 kids were in love? And what does murdering your parents say about your warped definition of love, you crazy lovebirds? A nose ring, a shaved head and a desert island would have worked.

God bless those remaining children. Dead parents, no home and a sister who's going to prison. I just can't imagine their loss and pain.


42 posted on 11/21/2005 5:01:48 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (Undocumented border patrol agent.)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

Kara...not Sara.


43 posted on 11/21/2005 5:02:28 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (Undocumented border patrol agent.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I think you are on to something. I betcha when detectives analyze the the girl's computer, they will find numerous hits to sites like http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/bailey/65/borden.html


44 posted on 11/21/2005 5:04:12 PM PST by RXSalesman
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To: Ramius

I am thinking of whats-her-name too... I don't think they are all that dissimilar. Put an obstacle between her and something she wants, and who knows?


45 posted on 11/21/2005 5:04:17 PM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: traderrob6

And the lives of the rest of her family.


46 posted on 11/21/2005 5:07:08 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

Understand though she is 14, what does she really understand about Love, Death? Pain?


47 posted on 11/21/2005 5:08:52 PM PST by laney (little bit country,little bit Rock and Roll!)
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To: dead

Does the word 'silly' include helping kill your parents?

Then, no, we did not ...



"OK, raise your hand if you didn’t make any silly boneheaded decisions when you were fourteen."


48 posted on 11/21/2005 5:11:28 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: cookiedough

This was posted at http://www.lancasteronline.com/ in the comments section after the article on this case:

"Ludwig confessed to the killings, saying he shot the parents after the father told him to stop seeing his daughter, according to the court filing. Ludwig said he shot Michael Borden in the back as he was going down the hallway to the front door and then went looking for Cathryn Borden.

"I shot mom as she was sitting in the chair," Ludwig was quoted as telling detectives. "It was an intentional murder, I intended to shoot them, and I did."

"Ludwig told detectives that after the killings, he couldn't find Kara Borden. He started to drive away and saw her running down the road toward him.

She got in the car and said she wanted to "get as far away as possible, get married, and start a new life," Ludwig told detectives."

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/13226261.htm


49 posted on 11/21/2005 5:12:41 PM PST by cookiedough
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To: laney

Anyone who can stand by while her "lover" murders both parents, and then run off with said "lover" to get married (or whatever) is cold as ice, regardless of her age.

What do you want to bet, though, that she can turn on the tears at will--and will most certainly do so at trial.


50 posted on 11/21/2005 5:12:52 PM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: Peace4EarthNow
Ludwig confessed to the slayings after his arrest and told police where to find the murder weapon in his car

Yeah, a car is a big place. You need help to find a weapon in a big place like a car.

51 posted on 11/21/2005 5:15:14 PM PST by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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To: MizSterious

Well if this is the case then it's pretty scarry that so many young kids are either born just plain evil or the world they live in has truly failed them.


52 posted on 11/21/2005 5:15:22 PM PST by laney (little bit country,little bit Rock and Roll!)
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To: laney

I'm always curious to learn just where and how these murderers were thinking things would turn out. Where did they think they'd be? C'mon babe, I'll shoot em up and we can be together forever.


53 posted on 11/21/2005 5:16:38 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (Undocumented border patrol agent.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I have shirts older than this stupid child.

LOLOL

54 posted on 11/21/2005 5:17:03 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (JOE WILSON IS A MUTHAFAKING LIAR)
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To: dead

"OK, raise your hand if you didn’t make any silly boneheaded decisions when you were fourteen."

Watching as you parents are killed and then leaving with the killer is a bit more than a bonehead decision.


55 posted on 11/21/2005 5:18:59 PM PST by toddlintown (Lennon takes six bullets to the chest, Yoko is standing right next to him and not one f'ing bullet?)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

Welcome to the world, these young kids are brainless maybe we all were but we did not live nor see the violence that kids see now, they see GOD thrown out the window by Adults they don't have to listen to parents because with the touch of a phone they can call 911 and have parents arrested, kids are violent no doubt about it but it has been filtered to them by adults


56 posted on 11/21/2005 5:21:10 PM PST by laney (little bit country,little bit Rock and Roll!)
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To: laney

I'd like to know what causes a child to turn out like Ludwig and Borden have. I have kids who are being raised in a Christian homeschooling family. I don't think being either Christian or homeschooled has anything to do with it, of course.

But on the surface, the Borden family seems like a closely-knit loving family. I wonder if that's true. Is there more to the story than simply that Kara and Ludwig are evil?

They didn't just eat too many Twinkies.


57 posted on 11/21/2005 5:22:14 PM PST by cookiedough
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To: Skywalk
"Looks like I was right in the original thread about this crime."

All one had to do was look at the photograph posted there - 14 going on 25...
58 posted on 11/21/2005 5:22:37 PM PST by decal (Mother Nature and Real Life are conservatives; the Progs have never figured this out.)
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To: cookiedough

I am sure there is more to this story than we have heard, I have no idea why she was let to be with this 18 yr old to begin with..


59 posted on 11/21/2005 5:23:57 PM PST by laney (little bit country,little bit Rock and Roll!)
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To: bdfromlv
Just like Charles Starkweather and Caril Fugate in 1958. If it wasnt for the 24 hour news and alerts the same thing might have happened again but he killed 11 people in 8 days.

Yup, and Caril was 14 years old too. Started in Lincoln, NE. For the first time my brother locked the doors of our house, then put his shotgun right by the door. Streets deserted, local hospital had sharpshooters on it because Charlie had once worked in maintenance down in the basement and tunnels.

They executed Charlie in the electric chair. The Dr who was to pronounce him dead fell dead himself of a heart attack, just before they pulled the switch. Some people said Charlie really killed 12 people.

60 posted on 11/21/2005 5:24:45 PM PST by Hattie
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