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Prosecutors Say Pa. Girl Wasn't Kidnapped
Associated Press ^ | Monday, November 21, 2005 | MARK SCOLFORO

Posted on 11/21/2005 4:23:43 PM PST by Peace4EarthNow

LANCASTER, Pa. - A 14-year-old girl whose 18-year-old boyfriend allegedly fatally shot her parents left willingly with him after the slayings and was not kidnapped, prosecutors said in court papers filed Monday.

Kara Borden told detectives she left of her own free will, according to the filing. David Ludwig told detectives the two planned to get married and start a new life together.

Ludwig confessed to the slayings after his arrest and told police where to find the murder weapon in his car, according to court documents released Monday in Indiana.

In court documents filed in Pennsylvania, prosecutors said Kara Borden ran from her home to get into Ludwig's car after the Nov. 13 shootings.

"(Kara) told the defendant that she wanted to stay with him, and they drove west with the intent to 'get as far away as possible, get married, and start a new life,'" Ludwig told detectives, according to the court papers.

District Attorney Donald Totaro said Monday the kidnapping charge against Ludwig, of Lititz, will be dropped at his preliminary hearing next month.

Earlier Monday, Indiana authorities released a search warrant affidavit for the car the couple drove nearly 600 miles from the murder scene in central Pennsylvania to Indiana.

Ludwig told Indiana State Police that a Glock semiautomatic pistol he used to kill Michael and Cathryn Borden was under the driver's front seat of his parents' car, according to the affidavit.

Police seized a .40-caliber Glock pistol, a .223-caliber rifle and several articles of black clothing under a search warrant executed Wednesday. Under a separate search warrant executed Friday, police said they found a .45-caliber Colt pistol, a screwdriver, several maps and two Indiana license plates.

Ludwig told police that there were several guns in the car.

"He certainly did make a statement and cooperated with police," said Hendricks County (Ind.) prosecutor Patricia A. Baldwin. "They basically let him talk is what they did."

Police have said the murder weapon was a .40-caliber handgun.

Ludwig is being held without bail, awaiting a Dec. 16 preliminary hearing on charges that he shot the Bordens in their home in Lititz on Nov. 13. Police allege the shootings occurred after an argument over Ludwig's relationship with Kara Borden.

Police caught up to Ludwig and Borden Nov. 14 after a chase that ended with him crashing the car into a tree in Belleville, Ind.

James Gratton, a public defender representing Ludwig, said he was aware that his client had given a statement to Indiana authorities, but did not know specifically what he told them.

Neither Ludwig nor the girl, who has not been charged, was injured in the crash.

Investigators said previously they were treating Kara Borden as a crime victim but that the investigation was continuing.

In a court filing Friday, Ludwig's attorneys said they wanted investigators to preserve evidence in Ludwig's wallet, such as receipts from their journey, so that surveillance video could be obtained. The video would show that he didn't kidnap the girl, the attorneys said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: davidludwig; karabethborden; karaborden; kidnapping; ludwig; pennsylvania
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To: bk1000

Preachers say it's because their kids hang out with the deacon's kids:')


181 posted on 11/22/2005 4:26:13 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

I would be suprised if these kids were on Ritalin -- and I'm sick of the public schools putting every Tom, Dick and Harry on drugs rather than deal with things like diet, environment, etc... I'm not a fan of all this over medicating.


182 posted on 11/22/2005 5:10:38 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: pollyannaish

I'm sitting here trying to decide between Net Nanny and Cybersitter. No way my kids are going to be fooling around chatting with anyone on websites. We have a phone here in the kitchen that they can continue to use, and a computer in the den that they can use. No private computers, t.v.s or phones in their rooms. They want that, they'll have to wait until they move out of our house.

I don't believe in giving them absolutely no privacy. But they can communicate with others in semi-privacy, knowing one of our family members could walk into the room at any time. It certainly won't hurt 'em -- I grew up in a household like that (the norm for the time).


183 posted on 11/22/2005 9:22:09 PM PST by cookiedough
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To: cookiedough

Rather than use something that "Blocks" sites like netnanny, I would recommend using a "scripting" or "logging" program. We use linux at the house, so it is a geek thing (I had to write the script myself), but there are lots of windoze thingies out there that record keystrokes. I let my girls know that they could surf anonymously, but if there was any evidence of talking inappropriately or hanging out in rooms where that went on, then we would have to re-think the privileges. I pulled out a session in a chat room, printed it off, and told them both when it occurred (just to show them how it worked). We had no real problems with the internet, just knowing that it is not "private."


184 posted on 11/23/2005 5:56:18 AM PST by chronic_loser (Handle provided free of charge as flame bait for the neurally vacant.)
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To: chronic_loser
Oh yeah, another thing is to log websites, and tell your kids they may never clear the history (most of em don't know how, anyway). You can see all the sites they have been to in the last X days, as it is already logged in both IE and Firefox. If YOU don't know how, you should google on the subject and educate yourself.

I have some friends who have struggled with internet porn, and we have a group in church that simply mail each other the log files once a month. We have a little widget that 1) tracks the installs of all new programs (a guy who thinks "just this time" can install another browswer and then delete it to "remove the evidence" 2)sends out a list of the files in IE or Firefox or Opera. It is good for accountability.

I know about teens and chat rooms, but in my opinion, adult men and porn is a far worse problem. All that assumes men are professing Christians. I doubt non-professors would see much problem with it.

185 posted on 11/23/2005 6:04:31 AM PST by chronic_loser (Handle provided free of charge as flame bait for the neurally vacant.)
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To: dead

yeah, but my parents didnt get shot to death.


186 posted on 11/23/2005 6:07:24 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: Palladin

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,176523,00.html

News article says Kara didn't ask her boyfriend to kill her parents. I guess this means she wasn't in on the plan.


187 posted on 11/23/2005 11:02:43 AM PST by cookiedough
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To: cookiedough

That's her defense attorney speaking.

Wait 'til they go over her computer with a fine tooth comb.


188 posted on 11/23/2005 1:25:55 PM PST by Palladin (There ain't nobody here but us chickens. (Senate Dems Theme Song))
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To: Palladin

Actually, it's what Ludwig told the detectives. Nonetheless, I agree, other evidence will have to agree with what he says.


189 posted on 11/23/2005 4:50:37 PM PST by cookiedough
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To: cherry

The holidays have arrived, and the Borden kids are grieving instead of celebrating. Their lives as they knew them are over. They have no parents and their sister turned her back on the family to side with a murderer. To top it off, they'll have to live with relatives and maybe move somewhere else, leaving their friends and their homeschooled lifestyle behind.

Their friends, too, must be reeling with shock and emotional anguish over what has transpired.

David Ludwig devastated so many people with his decision to kill the Bordens. Even though in the news articles he appears to have been straightforward with the detectives about what he did, we haven't heard anything about why he thought it was necessary to kill them.

An evil psychopath has been walking in their midst for some time. It is astonishing how much damage evil can do to so many in so short a period of time. It is even more astounding how evil can masquerade as light -- as evidenced by the high opinions of those closest to Ludwig prior to the murders.

I'm sure a lot of people can think about Ludwig's words and actions in the months prior to the murders and in hindsight, see where this could lead. That's the point -- it's all in hindsight.

This is a story of severe shock, trauma, grief, and betrayal that will take a long time for the Bordens, Ludwigs, and their friends and families to come to terms with. To top it off, they will be reminded of this devastating time at the beginning of every holiday season in the years to come.

I keep the people who have been affected by Ludwig's heinous actions in my prayers, and I feel sorrow for them and anger on their behalf for what Ludwig has done to them. I hope in time they will be able to come to terms with this, somehow, and that it doesn't ruin the rest of their lives.




190 posted on 11/23/2005 5:24:22 PM PST by cookiedough
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To: chronic_loser

Don't even TELL your kids about History. And if it IS deleted, you can go to temp. internet files. I've been known to check!


191 posted on 11/23/2005 5:27:01 PM PST by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Schools don't put kids on prescription drugs. Doctors and parents do.


192 posted on 11/23/2005 5:28:19 PM PST by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: bonfire
Some schools are sending kids home and telling parents unless they medicate the kids they can't come back to school.

Last week in Phoenix a 3rd grader who was distraught over the death of her grandfather (and probably should not have been in school) had the school nurse medicate her a prescription antidepressant without her mother or doctor's permission.... last I heard the principal and nurse were on administrative leave and this was a big deal on our local news channels for several days.

193 posted on 11/23/2005 7:12:55 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Wow! I smell a big lawsuit!


194 posted on 11/23/2005 7:16:13 PM PST by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: bonfire

The parents of kids in the same room as this child went to the school and demanded the district take strong measures to keep this from ever happening again and demanding the teacher, principal and nurse be dealt with; so far nothing about a lawsuit, but I imagine that could be in the works.


195 posted on 11/23/2005 9:44:57 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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