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BUCKHEAD REFUTES MARY MAPES ON RATHERGATE DOCS
How Did Buckhead Know? ^ | Monday, November 21, 2005 | Buckhead

Posted on 11/21/2005 2:17:55 PM PST by kristinn

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To: aShepard
Xerox was into the computer business in the 70's. They had an impressive timeshare system (CP-V), as well as a decent real time system (CP-R) for that era. Fast computers (Sigma 9, 560), minis (sigma 3s), peripherals, etc.

The corporation abandoned this business in the early 80's I think it was. To us geeks, it seemed that the Xerox corporate management had no idea of the value of what they abandoned.

181 posted on 11/21/2005 6:06:14 PM PST by GregoryFul
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To: GOP_1900AD

I reread both threads. On the longer one, I noticed a number of drive by posts by signed-up-the-same-day (or not long before) posters. Almost as if the usual suspects had people proactively monitoring after the 60 Minutes 2 showing, and then, when Buckhead blew the whistle, signing up ad hoc to try and "manage" the thread and of course to monitor it specifically. Just like what happened with the NCPAC / MD4Bush case! HAVE THEY NO SHAME? [he asked rhetorically! ...]


182 posted on 11/21/2005 6:06:26 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Flashlight
Ah, the perfectly centered memo headers...

It's even more difficult than you describe. In my typing class in high school the drill was to center the platen (or the IBM 'golf ball'), figure out the number of character in the line (including spaces) then divide by two. You then backspace by that number and the line you then type will be centered on the paper. Why does this work? Because in mono-spaced fonts each character is the SAME width.

If you then try proportional fonts (like the fake memos) where each character will vary in unit widths from (3 of 9) to (9 of 9) units you would have to have a photographic memory to know the unit widths of each character in the line you wish to center. Let's see the capital "A" character is 8 units, the "i" is 3 units, the "c" is four units etc. Then when you have all the units added properly, divide by two and hope that when you "backspace" on your proportional fonts typewriter that it actually "backspaces" in the font unit-widths that you are using...

Now imagine that you repeat this on four separate memos over many months in the early 1970s and after 30 years they JUST happen to match up perfectly with the output of the Microsoft Word proportional font centering algorithm for the 'Times' font... Pretty amazing, huh...

Here is another memo/font analysis from someone not in the blogosphere - a Mr. Thomas Phinney: font program manager of Adobe Systems Inc. who was contacted by the Washington Post last year...

Source: CreativePro - September 24th, 2004

Mary Mapes and all the old CBS retired sycophants are uninformed fools and liars who simply refuse to believe that the forged memos are proof of their stupidity. When you hear them discourse on the subject they dismiss the 'font controversy' without realizing that there is no 'he said/she said' two sides to the story. The memo controversy has been resolved simply by the application of technological knowledge. Those who are older enough to straddle the age of the typewriter and the word processing program know the difference instantly - those who always had others to do their typing would have had the apparent discrepancies pass right over their heads...

dvwjr

183 posted on 11/21/2005 6:07:30 PM PST by dvwjr
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

In retrospect, looking back at the threads with a year plus behind me, I now have noticed that said libs were actually doing drive by posts on the second, longer thread, trying to pretend they "were in the AF in the early 70s" and other malarchy. The posts in question all attempt the throw in doubt and spin. Just like the MD4Bush case! Probably included our buds Novak and Mosk at the WaPo as well as multiple electronic MSMers as well!


184 posted on 11/21/2005 6:10:36 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: conservative in nyc

In much the same way they did on the initial MD4Bush threads, operatives from the MSM and the left also came in on the Buckhead / Rathergate thread and tried to sow disinfo, spin and doubt. They must have been monitoring as well. I never really noticed it at the time. I linked the two threads somewhere in the low 600s of this thread. Fascinating!


185 posted on 11/21/2005 6:16:49 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: conservative in nyc

Correction, the links are at 165 of this thread ....


186 posted on 11/21/2005 6:17:50 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: kristinn
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187 posted on 11/21/2005 6:19:18 PM PST by RightWingAtheist (Free the Crevo Three!)
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To: kristinn; Buckhead
But I didn't, and so Mary Mapes hates Buckhead along with everyone else that has participated in refuting her lies.

We like you Buckhead!!

188 posted on 11/21/2005 6:20:02 PM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: kristinn; Buckhead

September 9 was the day after the 60 Minutes 2 showing. The initial sneak previews of the 60 Minutes 2 content would have been during 60 Minutes on Sunday the 5th. So, the time frame for the Wild Bill guy would be right for general monitoring of FR Vs that news cycle. Then, the multitude of rats arrived after Buckheads initial comment on Pikamax' thread of the NYT story on the 9th.


189 posted on 11/21/2005 6:22:42 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: kristinn
Dear Buckhead,

You have to prove to us there was no font like that in that time. We want a Back to the Future time warp DeLorean so we can verify your claims. It is up to you to prove to us that MSM doesn't have to prove anything to us.

Sincerely,

Journalism student

190 posted on 11/21/2005 6:26:20 PM PST by ALWAYSWELDING
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To: SW6906

So give it a rest, smart a$$.

Buckhead's post needs nothing. The truth doesn't care about an extra space or two.


191 posted on 11/21/2005 6:35:00 PM PST by pooh fan ("Strong, the pull of the Dark Side is". Yoda)
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To: dvwjr
Mary Mapes and all the old CBS retired sycophants are uninformed fools and liars who simply refuse to believe that the forged memos are proof of their stupidity. When you hear them discourse on the subject they dismiss the 'font controversy' without realizing that there is no 'he said/she said' two sides to the story.

They're not that ignorant. And they're old enough to know the differences between typewriters and word processing with proportional fonts.

They're just lying to cover their shredded credibility and suck up a few more dollars for their book sales about their dead careers. And toss in some bitter whining along the way.
192 posted on 11/21/2005 6:52:06 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: kristinn; Buckhead

Kristinn thank you for your long years of service to the Republic.

I posted to the thread about 40 entries later. . .


To: Buckhead
OH Rah Buckhead You are rady for your 15 minutes of Fame. What is your real name for the History books.

YOU TOOK DAN RATHER DOWN.
He must resign.

83 posted on 09/09/2004 4:22:17 PM PDT by jokar (On line data base http://www.trackingthethreat.com/db/index.htm)
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Of course I was wrong, Danno did not resign.
Congratulations again Buckhead.


193 posted on 11/21/2005 6:55:22 PM PST by jokar (On line data base http://www.trackingthethreat.com/db/index.htm)
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To: GOP_1900AD
There's no doubt Democrat operatives lurk and sometimes post here. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the hit-and-run posters on the Rathergate threads were from CBS news.
194 posted on 11/21/2005 7:01:26 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: Straight Vermonter

I don't know. I use Word Perfect, and it doesn't have it either.


195 posted on 11/21/2005 7:02:57 PM PST by formercalifornian (One nation, under whatever popular fad comes to mind at the moment, indivisible...)
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To: kristinn; Buckhead; Zacs Mom; PhilDragoo; Happy2BMe; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass; Boazo; ...

schweet.


196 posted on 11/21/2005 7:05:20 PM PST by bitt ('"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

I'm also 47, a computer user since 1979, by no means an expert and no legal training. But I could see the problem when it was first brought up. Must have something to do with being 47.


197 posted on 11/21/2005 7:05:37 PM PST by formercalifornian (One nation, under whatever popular fad comes to mind at the moment, indivisible...)
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To: pooh fan
If you read farther, you'd see I was just pointing out a pet peeve of mine to Buckhead. He took it the right way.

You honestly don't think a post about proportional typesetting isn't lessened in its impact by extra spaces between the words?!!? In retrospect, I thought it ironic..........

198 posted on 11/21/2005 7:11:30 PM PST by SW6906 (5 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, guns and ammunition.)
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To: GOP_1900AD

'Howlin, every single one of these memos to file is in a proportionally spaced font, probably Palatino or Times New Roman.

In 1972 people used typewriters for this sort of thing, and typewriters used monospaced fonts.

The use of proportionally spaced fonts did not come into common use for office memos until the introduction of laser printers, word processing software, and personal computers. They were not widespread until the mid to late 90's. Before then, you needed typesetting equipment, and that wasn't used for personal memos to file. Even the Wang systems that were dominant in the mid 80's used monospaced fonts.

I am saying these documents are forgeries, run through a copier for 15 generations to make them look old.

This should be pursued aggressively.



47 posted on 09/08/2004 11:59:43 PM EDT by Buckhead '

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Do we have a Wall of Fame?


199 posted on 11/21/2005 7:13:47 PM PST by bitt ('"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: spyone

We don't hate you Buckhead; we love you. You proved that Mary Mapes is just another sockhead who thinks she is smarter than anyone else out there. This is usually guarantees eventual failure as she is experiencing now.

I just wonder when it's going to hit the Clintons and their ilk?


200 posted on 11/21/2005 7:14:07 PM PST by freekitty
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