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1 posted on 11/21/2005 10:48:33 AM PST by ol painless
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To: ol painless

If they really wanted to stop people from running red lights, then they should force offenders to attend Texans games.


2 posted on 11/21/2005 10:49:54 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: ol painless
"This is about increasing safety, making people more alert and using the technology that is out there,"

He should not lie and have said "This is at least 90% revenue-collection driven".

3 posted on 11/21/2005 10:50:44 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Flibbertygibbit.)
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To: ol painless

Hang on for your first speeding ticket where you are caught by a radar installation and a photo of your license plate is taken...


6 posted on 11/21/2005 10:52:48 AM PST by deport
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To: ol painless
I've begun to think that towns that allow this to happen without extensive vandalism of the cameras take what they get.

This big brother revenue collection has got to be stopped.
7 posted on 11/21/2005 10:53:12 AM PST by mysterio
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To: ol painless
"This is about increasing safety, making people more alert and using the technology that is out there to increase our revenue,"

Bold text is my addition. Sometimes, you need to read between the lines. :-)

We got the Cameras turned off, at least temporarily, here in a couple of towns in NC. Occasionally, the good guys win one.

9 posted on 11/21/2005 10:56:21 AM PST by wbill
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To: ol painless
i wonder how long they will last.

our city had some installed too. about the time they
were paid for and the city was actually seeing a profit
the state said they were a no go...

yeesh!
10 posted on 11/21/2005 10:59:35 AM PST by leda (patton's brown eyed (and now very skinny) wife)
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To: ol painless

Janklow ping


13 posted on 11/21/2005 11:00:59 AM PST by Rakkasan1 (Peace de Resistance! Viva la Paper towels!)
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Instead of this BS, COH (city of houston) should put up Cameras all over Southwest Houston...since 2 to 3 people are killed in that area each week...would do more public good.

But, as many have posted within this forum, it's all about the money.


14 posted on 11/21/2005 11:04:30 AM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis.")
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To: ol painless

More revenue-generating activities by local gooberments.


15 posted on 11/21/2005 11:05:23 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: ol painless

Get ready for a lot of rear-end fender benders, Houston. It's the only thing to actually come out of these cameras.


17 posted on 11/21/2005 11:07:33 AM PST by Hoodlum91
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To: ol painless

If this is set up the way it is in other towns, you do not need to be caught rolling across the stop line.

Stopping with your front bumper over the line is sufficient for a "ran the red light" photo ticket.

Sounds like the civil crime is imposed against the car, not the driver- this is a key in civil forfeiture laws, the $5000 taken away from you is "charged" with being involved in a crime.


19 posted on 11/21/2005 11:11:48 AM PST by DBrow
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To: ol painless

This might make sense for a jackal revenooer in a one light town in the middle of a major state road. This makes NO long term sense for a city like Houston.

Many downtowns have trouble attracting people. This is one more disincentive to GO downtown. Way to drive people out to suburban strip malls!


20 posted on 11/21/2005 11:13:14 AM PST by sittnick (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: ol painless

A little spray paint on some lens should do the trick.


21 posted on 11/21/2005 11:15:45 AM PST by 38special (Orwell was ahead of his time.)
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To: ol painless

An easy way to get rid of the cameras is to stop going to the businesses which surround the cameras. It will be a short time until they are pulled.

Well, I just don't like to go downtown, that area ( with the cameras) in particular, because it's risky. I might accidentally get a ticket.


25 posted on 11/21/2005 11:19:08 AM PST by TexanToTheCore (Rock the pews, Baby)
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To: ol painless
Some intrepid FReeper better check the Yellow/Red timing versus OTHER non-camera'd intersections....also compare the results versus Texas DMV code requirements.

See, a LOT of these Camera's intersections have shortened yellow/red periods...that's a "revenue enhancer"!

If you find a discrepancy, document it by video and pictures, and find a GOOD lawyer to do a RICO/Class Action lawsuit based on tickets given out using these fraudulent methods!

Oh, and make LOTS of copies of the evidence, and maybe a website for it too....never trust the Gub'Mint!

28 posted on 11/21/2005 11:32:19 AM PST by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: ol painless

When will the cameras be rigged to nab those making illegal turns? Or catch cars that are following too closely? Or turn on whenever you exceed the speed limit? Or catch cars that fail to signal before lane changes? Seems like all of those things would add to overall traffic safety too.


30 posted on 11/21/2005 11:39:24 AM PST by Lou L
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