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To: Kjobs
Amen. While I hate the unions, the real problem here is that GM is producing a line of shoddy, unattractive vehicles. I mean, have you seen some of the crap that the Pontiac division is producing? No wonder this company is failing.

Yes, and the union is responsible for the shoddy production (though the designers are responsible for the unattractive designs).

My dad was a union man who worked for an auto manufacturer years ago, though not on the line. He was an "old timer" who actually took pride in his work. The union made sure that slackers and sloppy workers kept their jobs. My dad and the other "old timers" spent much of their time fixing the mistakes and shoddy work of the "young'ins". Dad said many of the guys would just sleep on the night shift - never got disciplined - you couldn't touch them because the union would bail them out. Once the "old timers" like Dad retired, the careful, accurate work went with them.

While I'm sure there are still workers who try to do an honest job, the union "can't touch me" mentality has invaded the workplace, and the guys who sweep the floor make nearly as much as the engineers. There is no fear of reprisal for a poor job. He feels the unions brought this on themselves.

291 posted on 11/22/2005 6:33:35 AM PST by BrynS728
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To: BrynS728
Thou paintest with an extremely B R O A D brush. This is fairly true:

While I'm sure there are still workers who try to do an honest job, the union "can't touch me" mentality has invaded the workplace, and the guys who sweep the floor make nearly as much as the engineers. There is no fear of reprisal for a poor job. He feels the unions brought this on themselves.

But it is as broad a brush stroke as saying all "Conservatives are Republicans." There are MANY hard workers who put up with the nonsense...it is BOTH the union's & GM's fault for not leaving an opening for the disciplining of slackers.

299 posted on 11/22/2005 9:20:53 AM PST by madison10
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