[duckman]

"You can't live in OZ forever."
When I was 'down sized' from IBM in 92' I would have gladly taken a pay cut or reduction in benefits. However it's always the people that have to go.

[conservativecorner]

I don't say this lightly because I know we are talking about people's lives, but with the explosion of health care costs, it's not price gouging either, the unions should of realized long ago that things would have to change. Instead they continued to demand the same old things in their contracts. Within the last few months, they decided that retirees should pay SOMETHING for their continued health care benefits after retiring. DUH!

The real truth is, and someone already mentioned it, GM is no longer a publicly traded company in any real sense. Yes you can certainly but the stock, but the unions now own GM because of the contracts they negotiated over several decades. You never get something for nothing, and the bill has finally come due.

[Straight Vermonter]

Some idiots at the IBM plant I work in want to bring in a union. What are these people smoking?

Our plant is 40 years old and just about obsolete and they think they are going to push IBM around. Duhhhh.

[bvw]

In this case it's those who have already retired that are the lead anchor drooped around the corporate neck.