Posted on 11/20/2005 2:57:23 PM PST by Angry Republican
Seems like you know Phil...
"Officer there is a man In A Major Domo Outfit and he is Farting".
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But why don't you ask the question why? The UAW has a lot of influence over who the managers are. They want guys who are easy to deal with. And that means they don't want the smartest knives in the drawer.
FYI, you can now buy a brand new '69 convertible Camaro bare body.
Enjoy !
No I don't.
I am just waiting for the hammer to drop on Western "useful idiots" when the Chi-coms take Western property just as happened with the original New Economic Plan (Lenin's) that Deng copied years ago.
Only those Chi-coms are not quite so heavy handed as the old Soviet ideologues were. Some believe that the Chi-coms will just continue stealing intellectual property and drive the useful idiots out of business domestically in China and internationally.
There's a reason Lenin called Western capitalists, useful idiots.
Bingo. Management and union negotiators were and are just as capable as politicians when it comes to kicking the can down the road. Trouble is, the road has now come to a cul-de-sac.
Don C wrote:Labor's Magna Carta: FDR Signs the Wagner Act
Companies never...repeat never..sign union contracts that they don't think they can live with. Hence..STRIKES occur. Yes.. some of these contracts in hindsight seem to be in bad judgement but at the time they were executed management felt that they could handle the provisions.Tell that to Alfred Sloan. The Governor of Michigan and the President of the United States of America forced the first of these "contracts" upon GM in 1935 and 1937.
From 1955 to 1960 you could tell the make of a car in the dark at 100 yards by the shape of the tail lights. Now, with a few recent exceptions, you can't tell one car from another in broad daylight unless you're close enough to read the fine print. Plus, they are all gray.
LOL!! Ever hear of the "K-Car?"
During the Depression, the top selling margue in the mid-30's was the value-priced Plymouths.No. While Plymouth was the best selling Chrysler product of the 1930s it was never the best selling automobile. Nevertheless, your point remains in that the Plymouth was a new invention of the late 1920s that importantly served to bolster the overall position of Chrysler. The 1930s were marked by such branding schemes, some of which worked and others that flopped.
Above all, it was politics that killed off competition in the 1930s and not the business environment. Taxes, price controls and the NRA and its successor, the Wagner Act, bolstered the strong and killed off the weak, who might have had a chance, otherwise.
The sad irony of the GM story is that the company profited from the Government's 1930s/40s/early 50s interventions that hindered competition, but at the same time set the foundation in these labor agreements for today's mess.
Just because it isn't in their interest to do so doesn't mean they won't. After all, the Eastern Airlines mechanics really showed management who was boss, didn't they.
"These union leaders are economic terrorists."
If this is true, then the GM management has been a willing collaborator.
My problem with this is that in bankruptcy the company will lay off pension and health care costs to the American taxpayer. If I tried to declare bankruptcy I could do nothing of the kind. The companies and people I shafted would just be shafted, no bailout for them. And the court would take away all my assets and impose a payment schedule instead of keeping me running at the same level.
GM will go bankrupt. But when they do, the government should insist on taking them apart and selling them off to the highest bidder in order to cover their pensions. It won't. We'll suck that up, too. It's how bidness is done in DC and in the fatcat world.
Just a matter of time.
The Congress has passed laws that pretty much put the union in charge. If you really want to get down to it, it's the fault of Congress.
Either someone didn't spellcheck or they confused GM with those Vikings from the Capital One commercials.
What GM needs to do is build a new Camaro SS with a 450hp detuned LS7 Z06 engine for $35k.
The union had to be kept on contract as it stood and the company had to negotiate in good faith. The company's other option was to shut down. Instead, they did the equivalent of what Congress has done, putting off hard decisions on future management, exacerbating the problem.
I'm not saying Congress doesn't suck. I'm not saying UNIONS don't suck. But anyone procrastinating the hard decisions to others' detriment doesn't deserve to get off scot free, and it seems to me the ONLY party that doesn't take a real hit here, a hit that deserves to be cutting to the bone, is the weasels in management who knew this day would come and made the pension deals, anyway.
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