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To: RightWhale

"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons."

Senator Jacob Howard,
co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters4608


5 posted on 11/20/2005 12:59:53 PM PST by flashbunny (LOCKBOX: Where most republicans keep their gonads after they arrive in Washington D.C.)
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To: flashbunny

That's to the good. There was another opinion by one of the co-authors of the 14th that allowed the corporation to be interpreted as a person, and that was in spite of nothing in the minutes that implied such an interpretation. Many will not accept the words from the horse's mouth, but only what actually appeared in the Amendment.


12 posted on 11/20/2005 1:08:03 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: flashbunny
This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons."

I just don't get how this seems to have been forgotten, or else shoved under the carpet, by virtually ALL of our politicians!

31 posted on 11/20/2005 1:34:42 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: flashbunny
This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens...

Sounds like this already addressed in the 14th. Amending again won't make any difference if this is already ignored. It will just make another clause to ignore.

42 posted on 11/20/2005 2:16:24 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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