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Bush tries to cool tempers over Iraq
Reuters ^ | 11/20/5 | Steve Holland

Posted on 11/20/2005 8:26:47 AM PST by SmithL

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To: Willie Green

I agree with you re: the smear campaign. I know it is an unpopular view here unfortunately. But it is one that I am also hearing from soldiers and vets. This is a good way to lose the military vote. To start a smear campaign against soldiers who disagree with us politically.


41 posted on 11/20/2005 10:32:32 AM PST by DallasSun
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To: listenhillary
Convenient.

Yes, especially if it's true.
Leave it to the knee-jerks to supply bozos like Pelosi some live ammo instead of working with those with genuine concerns like Murtha. The don't call the GOP the "stupid party" for nothing.

42 posted on 11/20/2005 10:40:49 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green

I can take care of my own clothing needs, but since you're suggesting what I should wear, I'll suggest that your shirt should say the following.

"I disagree with our Commander in Chief, our military leaders, the Iraqi government and most important our troops who want to be in Iraq bad enough to keep re-inlisting. Bring them home now so we can prevent victory."


43 posted on 11/20/2005 10:44:34 AM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: listenhillary

I agree with President Bush on this subject. That is considered drinking MSM koolaid??


44 posted on 11/20/2005 10:45:40 AM PST by DallasSun
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To: Willie Green

So we should never investigate anyone who speaks out against the administration?

Dang! This job just keeps getting better and better! A multi-million dollar retirement package PLUS a get out of jail free card with each and every license to steal.

Sheeeit


45 posted on 11/20/2005 10:53:14 AM PST by listenhillary ("Mainstream media" is creating it's own reality~everything sucks)
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To: DallasSun

I don't know. Your sketchy posting history doesn't give me much to go on.


46 posted on 11/20/2005 10:54:18 AM PST by listenhillary ("Mainstream media" is creating it's own reality~everything sucks)
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To: DoughtyOne
I'll suggest that your shirt should say the following.

If I can still find a T-shirt that's "Made in the USA" the only thing it's going to say is: "Either give our troops the resources they need to WIN or bring them home."

47 posted on 11/20/2005 10:56:01 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: DallasSun

Do most Marines that you know suggest we leave before finishing the job?


48 posted on 11/20/2005 10:56:17 AM PST by listenhillary ("Mainstream media" is creating it's own reality~everything sucks)
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To: Willie Green
Another shovel full. Keep digging.

49 posted on 11/20/2005 10:57:15 AM PST by I see my hands (Until this civil war heats up.. Have a nice day.)
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To: listenhillary
So we should never investigate anyone who speaks out against the administration?

"The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else."

-- Teddy Roosevelt in the "Kansas City Star", May 7, 1918


50 posted on 11/20/2005 10:58:15 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green

But Willie, its easier to call someone a traitor than really listen to what they are saying. Get with the program.


51 posted on 11/20/2005 11:00:44 AM PST by notigar
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To: Willie Green

Willie, why are troops re-upping if your assessment is correct?

Your wild accusations fly in the face of reality. Generals are NOT asking for more troops or more of anything at the present.


52 posted on 11/20/2005 11:01:15 AM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: Willie Green

Strike that! They are asking for more time on the ground in Iraq.


53 posted on 11/20/2005 11:01:40 AM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: notigar

You support Murtha in his efforts to undermine the morale of our Marines and to encourage the terrorists who kill them?


54 posted on 11/20/2005 11:02:29 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: listenhillary

I simply said I agree with President Bush that Murtha has served this country with honour. I do not think this suggests I have been drinking the MSM koolaid. What my posting history has to do with this, I do not know. I do know the military vets I suggested this site to, have said this kind of slander and vilification can cost us the military vote in time. I agree with them. And the soldiers I know have ambivalent thoughts on leaving Iraq. None think we should leave at this particular time. Some do think we need to concentrate more on handing the country back to the Iraqis. That time is not now though.


55 posted on 11/20/2005 11:05:33 AM PST by DallasSun
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To: DoughtyOne
Willie, why are troops re-upping if your assessment is correct?

Perhaps because their blue-collar jobs are being outsourced and they don't want to work at WalMart.

56 posted on 11/20/2005 11:07:39 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: CFC__VRWC
Exactly. The defeated liberal media is going to spin anything from until January 2009 as a defeat for President Bush and a victory for the democrats. They do it for two reasons: First to uplift the morale of their delusional left wing kooks, and second to demoralize and split the Conservative and Republican base where unfortunately some on our side will take as truth the utter lies and distortions of the defeated liberal media.
57 posted on 11/20/2005 11:10:53 AM PST by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: Willie Green

I think you'll admit that military pay is not superior to WalMart pay, and at least at WalMart you're not shot at.


58 posted on 11/20/2005 11:11:16 AM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: DallasSun
I simply said I agree with President Bush that Murtha has served this country with honour.

He is no longer serving it with honor. He has become a disgrace.

That's the point.

59 posted on 11/20/2005 11:12:43 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: DallasSun

I simply said I agree with President Bush that Murtha has served this country with honor.

I would agree with you if I qualified it a bit. He did serve his country honorably "while in the military".
Not sure about those two purple hearts though. Some reports that I haven't investigated yet suggest that both were for relatively minor injuries. Do your military friends approve of this type of behavior if it is true? Ala Kerry type purple hearts?

When he was getting contracts for a campaign donor for a truck that the Army said they didn't need and then he got all pissy about it and held up funding, he was becoming what the ground soldiers despise. A blowhard brass-hat that was out of touch with what the military needs.

Do your friends in the military approve when upper level brass push unwanted and un-needed crap on them to pay off campaign contributors?


60 posted on 11/20/2005 11:15:36 AM PST by listenhillary ("Mainstream media" is creating it's own reality~everything sucks)
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