Posted on 11/20/2005 5:33:06 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
The Talk Shows
Sunday, November 20th, 2005
Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:
FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld; Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del.
MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa.; Health and Human Services Secretary Mike Leavitt; Dr. Julie Gerberding, director, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention; Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, director, National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases; Dr. Mike Ryan, director, Epidemic and Pandemic Alert and Response Department of the World Health Organization.
FACE THE NATION (CBS): Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld; Sens. Richard Lugar, R-Ind., and Chris Dodd, D-Conn.
THIS WEEK (ABC): Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.
LATE EDITION (CNN) : Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.
Outstanding article, SC...I always read Frontpage magazine..and was thrilled when I saw an interview with Tierney..
I remember seeing him on Fox during the war...and he was shocked at the way the inspectors were acting in the lead up...and he mentioned that he knew exactly where there was uraniun...
He acted like he couldn't wait to get out of the studio...and into Iraq, so he could find them himself.
"I just love it when they call Viet Nam "Nixon's war" - just makes me want to nuke every last one of them."
Wish someone would remind them on a regular basis that it was LBJ that was telling the troops what sites to bomb; and, while the Nixon Admin negotiated a peace treaty, congress cut off funding for Saigon, which did not allow Nixon to keep his promise to assist them.
My buddy in Balad looks forward to the DVDs that come in monthly care packages. Someone from our church buys them used and puts them in our church care packages. Another thing they like is video games. And Rush was definitley right, they want more of his show on Armed Forces radio!
It was intended to be nonsensical. The point was in response to the contention that a 35% approval rating was grossly overstated as is always done. If the election showed Bush nearly tied, then if the overstatement assessment is valid, then Bush should have won overwhelmingly. The same pollsters take both polls.
The concerns I have seen mentioned here on the polls include trick questions, daytime calls, etc. The Fox poll which showed Bush with a 36% approval rating was taken in the evening and the question was "Do you approve or disapprove of the job George W. Bush is doing as president. It was taken of registered voters (perhaps not the best) but also included a question concerning Democrats in Congress and they received a 33% rating. So if this was a trick question, and if the sample was mostly Democrats....well you get the idea.
Bet you something. No matter what happens, Bush's numbers will never get into the mid to upper 40s again.
Perhaps, but if things go well in Iraq especially if the Iraq can become stabilized in a reasonable time, I suspect the numbers will increase for Bush.
They have so jimmed the sample now that it will take a massively wrong result, like 1980s election, to get them to fix the corruption.
I assume that all of the polls use the same corrupted sample and trick questions? Perhaps you could explain using the Fox poll I mentioned.
MNJohnnie, of course the polls are unreliable.
A better indication of what people think about the war is how their representatives performed this week.
The Republican House performed well, but wouldn't you characterize the Republicans in the Senate as performing poorly this week?
What?
Have you not been on the very threads that you mentioned that see other freepers complaining that 1) the speeches by the administration are typically during the daytime; and 2) do very little to combat the lies told on the left.
The president does a GREAT job talking about why we are at war. Everyone here accepts this.
What he and his administration and Republican Congressmen do not do effectively is combat the lies on the left. We here on Free Republic do a better job than the administration has done, prior to last week, in finding the falsity and hypocrisy of the lies told by the left.
As to your comment that no one thinks the military is happy that lies are being told about them, that is not entirely accurate. I've been told quite repeatedly on this very thread that morale is not a problem and that I am exaggerating the situation. That's circular logic.
As you know, snugs mentioned that Mystery's husband reports the same problem with morale as my stepson does. Other freepers with families in the military report the same problem. Ollie North reports the same problem. So it seems there is a problem.
What is the solution? To permit the lies to stand? You accept that the president and White House have not done a good job combating the lies on the left. Good, we are in agreement. So how is it that I've complained about the president beyond stating that which you just stated?
What started this entire argument with other freepers is that they are thinking that there is not a problem. They report polls as being faulty.
If freepers do not accept there is a problem with morale, then they will not be writing/calling their Congressmen and women to push them to stand up more for the president and the administration and our soldiers.
So the first step is admitting there is a problem.
The denial of a problem is a problem. Because then we aren't trying to fix the problem. We're arguing over whether there is a problem. Which is what nearly every one of my posts has been about.
Congress has shown very little willingness to take on the situation. So maybe getting freepers to at LEAST admit there is a problem will galvanize people to call their Congressmen.
But it seems that people would far prefer to condemn me and a few freepers who actually have active duty military men and women in our families risking their lives because we're upset that the left is intent on creating another Vietnam.
And the Silent Majority is being silent again. Because half of the people on this thread don't even think there is a problem. Or if there is one, it's with freepers. Not an ineffectual communications campaign from the administration and Congress.
Well, that will just solve everything.
ah....very well said...thank you.
A number of conservative talking heads who do know have said so.
ROFL!! These are GREAT!!!!
Rummy is somewhat like me - if someone tied our hands behind our back, we wouldn't be able to talk very much LOL!
Bush is the greatest foreign policy President since Reagan, but his administration has the worst public relations skills of any in my lifetime.
.. my one sister who is a dem ...said that they might as well impeach themselves also .. because they voted for the war on the same intel the President had
See how ONE WEEK of fighting back is helping? Now they need to stay on the offensive.
LOL---yes, in the world of video games and action movies...they expect the POTUS/CIC to be able to stop hurricanes...and win wars in 6 months...
Too bad that most of us...and our troops have to live in REALITY.
Now that takes some pretty signigicant communication among all of the polling groups. I can't argue that Kerry losing was in Hillary's interest, but I'm not sure how the Fox poll question, "Do you approve or disapprove of the job George W. Bush is doing as president" can somehow be manipulated.
OMG. I can't make myself more clear. These are NOT my feelings. These are the feelings of the men and women who are risking their lives to keep YOU safe.
This is Ollie North's article last week, which I linked previously upthread.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1524283/posts
From the article:
That's a valid question. Even Senate Republicans don't seem to know what they want. As the "World's Greatest Deliberative Body" was exploring how to set a "date certain" for withdrawing troops without setting a certain date, Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, said, "Americans do not cut and run, Americans do not abandon their commitments and Americans do not abandon their friends." But he voted for the measure anyway.
If this were widespread you would not see a 430-3 vote in the US House against a Cut and Run resolution. If the Anti-Military/Anti-American Dinosaur Media was as all powerful you would of seen at least the Safe Anti-American Congressional District Democrats, like Nancy Pelosie, Red Jim McDermotte or Maxine Waters, vote FOR the bill.
I think some Freepers take the Dinosaur Media too seriously and assign it far greater power then it actually has.
There is a logic error called "Anecdotal evidence" The person making this logical error extrapolates based on their own experience and assumes what THEY see is what EVERYIONE sees. It runs like this. Because A happened (Tell story) B must be true. Um NO, not necessarily.
The most amazing television I've seen in a long time was today on CNN with Wolf Blitzer. He interviewed 2 former CIA operatives: Reuel Gerecht is a former CIA Middle East specialist. Melissa Boyle Mahle also a former CIA Middle East specialist, former case officer.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0511/20/le.01.html
The interview is so interesting, so informtative, I think I'll do a thread as well, so more folks will actually read it.
Office of the Press Secretary
November 18, 2005
Statement by the Press Secretary on Congressman Murtha's Statement
Congressman Murtha is a respected veteran and politician who has a record of supporting a strong America. So it is baffling that he is endorsing the policy positions of Michael Moore and the extreme liberal wing of the Democratic party. The eve of an historic democratic election in Iraq is not the time to surrender to the terrorists. After seeing his statement, we remain baffled -- nowhere does he explain how retreating from Iraq makes America safer.
Yep .. my sister was buying a house around that time and her interest rates were about that
Oh and don't forget those long lines at the gas station
Or ... the fire side chat telling us to wear sweaters
There is a reason why the name Reagan Democrats came to be known
"What was the Murtha view on Clinton military undertakings?"
I'd like to know and wish someone would question (like that will ever happen)the Dims on Bubba and Bosnia/Kosovo. He did not go to the UN or Congress to seek 'approval', what was his 'exit plan', and he said our troops would be out by Christmas - how long do we have to pay for that war.
Your denial does not stand our military in good stead.
No wonder they don't feel supported. Through Ollie North they are practically begging for support from Washington. And not getting it from Congress.
I'm glad you feel that Congress is doing a good job. You are in a minority. Most of us feel there is no point to letting lies about a war and men risking their lives for us stand as truth for so long.
What Ollie's article states is that the troops feel they will be abandoned. Or pulled out too soon. They see votes even by Republicans that are NOT good news.
And we aren't pushing Congress to do the right thing because so many people are in denial. As we see on this very thread.
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