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To: Alouette
""unless you attend my church, accept my God and study my sacred text you cannot be a moral person." "

As an atheist who has frequently butted heads with conservative Christians here for 7 years, I don’t think I’ve ever been told or even ever read that I cannot be a moral person. Many claim I can’t define morality, but none have said I couldn’t be moral.

This guy’s a kook.

27 posted on 11/19/2005 3:54:21 PM PST by elfman2
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To: elfman2
This guy’s a kook.

More likely the guy is kicking off some fund raising campaign, mining the fields of the moneyed paranoid.

41 posted on 11/19/2005 3:59:15 PM PST by Torie
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To: elfman2

I've been interested for some time in the differences as to how morality is defined. I believe that Islam, for instance, has no independent morality. Giving to charity, being nice to people, not killing them, well that's fine on its own, but if it's not in the name of Islam, it's really not moral. The Judeo-Christian view separates morality from religious identity and even from religious practice. It's so ingrained in the Western point of view, that we don't even notice cultures that don't recognize it.


70 posted on 11/19/2005 4:16:28 PM PST by AmishDude (Mathematics -- better than science, harder than science, and always true. Always.)
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To: elfman2
To you and to Rabbi Yoffie.

Evangelicals believe salvation depends on acceptance of Jesus Christ as our Saviour, and is not at all based on morality. Acceptance of Christ and his offer of salvation means all our sins, past and future, are forgiven.

Of course we're expected to repent, but a true evangelical cannot judge the morality of someone else.

Jesus loves both of you.

178 posted on 11/19/2005 6:47:08 PM PST by Rider on the Rain
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