83% say Nally should not have been jailed (Irish Farmer who shot Intruder)

Irish Examiner, Cork ^ | 19/NOV/05 | Sean O'Riordan

[Murtyo]

The farmer shot Mr Ward twice and beat him 20 times with a stick. The second and fatal shot was fired after Mr Ward had left Nally's farmyard. Nally claimed in his defence that he believed his life was under threat and he was in the grip of fear.

[joesnuffy]

Traveler?....as in gypsy con artist/huckster/shoplifting/burglar/scam artist/bandit gang?

Isn't Bubba one of them?

[Murtyo]

a lot of them are "artist/huckster/shoplifting/burglar/scam artist/bandit" types - they're not Gypsies but they have similar "lifestyles".

[Americanwolf]

Isn't Bubba one of them?

Please, as bad as the travelers are.... don't disrespect the Irish blood by trying to connect slickus willus in anyway to them.

[lesser_satan]

A MASSIVE 83% of those who responded to an Irish Examiner poll believe that Mayo farmer Padraig Nally should not have been jailed for killing Traveller John 'Frog' Ward.

Traveller= Pikey?

[atomic conspiracy]

The very same.

Here in the States, the Travelers now have their own PC advocacy organization, which uses the gang's loot to mount a slick campaign portraying the Travelers as a traditional ethnic group victimized by prejudice. Communists like Worker Solidarity and various academics have swallowed it hook, line, and sinker.

[Brilliant]

If 83% disagree, then why is this happening? Don't these guys have democracy?

[jimboster]

Don't you remember the Irish Traveller who was caught on tape beating her daughter in the parking lot of a Target (or similat store)?

[magslinger]

Apparently they have all the democracy that the lords in robes let them have, just like us.

[Accygirl]

Hah... Liberals are SO naive. I guess the Travelers know who to target next.

[Irish_Thatcherite]

Here's a link to a thread I posted a few months ago, when the farmer was convicted, I had hoped he would have gotten a suspended sentence:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1447092/posts

We also have lobby groups in this country that claim that Ireland's vagabonds are an ethnic group, with a language (Shelta or Cant) that predates Gaelic;

http://www.paveepoint.ie/

http://www.itmtrav.com/

http://www.iccl.ie/minorities/travellers/02_trespasslaw.html

http://kidsown.ie/cant-lose-cant/



The reality is, the Tinkers are descended from displaced people between the time of Cromwell and the Famine.

Today, ordinary tinkers are oppressed by their own, like the people in the Muslim world, by self-appointed godfathers.

Irish law effectively places these godfathers above the law (a bit like a certain other criminal organization)!!

[Irish_Thatcherite]

Ping. Remember this story from a few months ago?

[Irish_Thatcherite]

Here in the States, the Travelers now have their own PC advocacy organization, which uses the gang's loot to mount a slick campaign portraying the Travelers as a traditional ethnic group victimized by prejudice.

The first link you provide is the Irish Traveller Movement, dear God they have an American outlet?

Also, I see the tinker godfathers are using the same tactics as Sinn Fein/IRA - lobbying Irish Americans!!

[ZULU]

Make that 83% + 1 American

[Youngblood]

This is a tough call for me. The guy was obviously stricken with fear after being burgled several times previously (along with numerous other isolated or old people in rural west Ireland). However, he did shoot yer man in the back as he was hobbling away. Then again, given travellers' reputation for violence, he may genuinely have feared that this guy would be back.

[yarddog]

There is a large community of them in South Carolina. I recall a rash of arrests in this area of people who scammed local residents with phony driveway paving, roof coating etc. type scams.

I am pretty sure one of them stopped by my Father's house maybe two years ago. He was a sharp looking fellow in a new pickup. He asked if I wanted the driveway paved. I told him Daddy liked it just the way it was. He left with no problem but I am pretty sure he was one of them.

[Irish_Thatcherite]

I know it's not a clear cut case of self defence, but remember that tinker godfathers regard themselves above the law - because they are, the government of this country have brought in laws (such as the Equal Status Act), that have effectively put such thugs beyond reproach - simply because they are members of a 'minority' group. Remember also, this case is very similar to the Tony Martin case in England, and he shouldn't have been imprisoned either.

[Irish_Thatcherite]

....who scammed local residents with phony driveway paving, roof coating etc. type scams.

Ah yes, tar diluted with diesel, coating corrugated roofs with a mixture that is not much more than turpentine - they are at such scam as well in this country!!

[Irish_Thatcherite]

Thank you for your support!

[yarddog]

My late wife's grandfather got caught by them back in the 1930's

They coated his roof with an aluminum coating. First rain and it washed right off.