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To: Peach; Mo1
Sen. Kyl was just on Hugh Hewitt's show.

Seems the Patriot act will SUNSET during the congress's break because Spector will not vote it out of conference.
1,579 posted on 11/18/2005 3:38:50 PM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

Ruh--Roh....Did he say why Specter did that??


1,607 posted on 11/18/2005 3:40:56 PM PST by Txsleuth (9/11-NEVER FORGET, NEVER AGAIN!--Americans do NOT SURRENDER!)
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To: OXENinFLA

The Patriot Act is going to Sunset?

Where on earth have the Republicans been on these issues?? Sheesh. Silence is going to KILL us.


1,608 posted on 11/18/2005 3:41:01 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: OXENinFLA
Seems the Patriot act will SUNSET during the congress's break because Spector will not vote it out of conference.

Sessions was wild about that too. I hadn't heard that Specter was the holdup.

1,691 posted on 11/18/2005 3:49:07 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: OXENinFLA
Seems the Patriot act will SUNSET during the congress's break because Spector will not vote it out of conference.

I finally got around to researching some of the details relating to "who's the skunk" and what the issues are on renewal of the Patriot Act. A few links below, none of which I've spent much time analyzing.

Specter is NOT threatening to delay the House/Senate accord.

H.R.3199 - This is the active bill
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:H.R.3199:

Summary of Senate amendments to H.R.3199
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:HR03199:@@@D&summ2=1&

S.1389 - Senate Version (useful only as raw comparison with H.R.3199)
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:s.01389:

Sunsetting provisions of Patriot Act - CRS-RL34499
http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/34499.pdf

Links to additional Patriot Act Documents (FOIA requests, etc.)
http://www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/usapatriot/sunset.html

Nov 17 Letter from 6 Senators to Specter, Leahy, Roberts & Rockefeller
http://www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/usapatriot/senateletter_111705.pdf

Article regarding the effect of the letter (excerpts quoted below)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aV62ogQWNxLg&refer=us

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter, a Pennsylvania Republican, is in talks with Senator Patrick Leahy of Vermont, the panel's senior Democrat, and other lawmakers to build support for the accord [an agreement between House and Senate reelating to details of what the Senate would pass].

Specter and his House counterpart, Representative James Sensenbrenner, a Wisconsin Republican, are trying to seal an agreement so it can be approved by both chambers before lawmakers leave at the end of this week for the Thanksgiving recess.

``We're working on it,'' Specter said. When asked about Feingold's threat to filibuster, he joked, ``He's got strong lungs.''

Senator Richard Durbin, the No. 2 Democrat, said Republican congressional leaders shouldn't underestimate the opposition to the accord.

Durbin said he would support Feingold's efforts to block a vote on the agreement. He declined to say whether enough Democrats would support the effort to sustain a filibuster, which requires 60 votes to overcome.

Durbin, Feingold, Sununu and three other senators sent a letter to Specter, Leahy and Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Pat Roberts and Jay Rockefeller, the panel's senior Democrat, saying they would oppose the agreement unless ``significant'' changes were made. ...

Republican Senators Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Larry Craig of Idaho and Democratic Senator Ken Salazar of Colorado also signed the letter.

... the House legislation provided fewer checks on government authority than the Senate version.

Senator Jeff Sessions, a member of the Judiciary Committee, said he was concerned Democrats and civil-liberties groups are trying to weaken the FBI's ability to conduct terrorism investigations.

In the current agreement, which he supports, ``We actually have more restrictions on terrorist investigators than on prosecutors and police all over America,'' said Sessions, an Alabama Republican.

Leahy still holds out hope a broadly supported agreement can be reached, said Tracy Schmaler, his spokeswoman.


8,226 posted on 11/21/2005 4:23:44 AM PST by Cboldt
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