Police: Video Shows Teen Suspect Planning Murders

The Indy Channel ^ | November 18, 2005 | AP

[Abathar]

Sounds like that girl might be innocent after all, too bad that tree didn't hit the drivers side door.

[bonfire]

This kid should have been locked up a long time ago. Bad seed.

[bonfire]

You may want to ping your lists for this. Unbelievable!

[abigailsmybaby]

"Except for this incident of him killing his girlfriend's parents, he's a really nice person." (paraphrasing)

Sounds like a prince of a guy.

[madison10]

One kinda wonders with a name like "Borden." Lizzie and the whacks thing.

Sounds like she hooked up with a loser.

[Izzy Dunne]

At least this story didn't drag the "homeschooled" fact into it.

This story did.

[xcamel]

"Police seized 54 guns on Sunday afternoon from the home where Ludwig lived with his parents, according to court documents filed Thursday. The weapons included an array of rifles, shotguns, handguns and ammunition."

Sounds like illegal search and siezure of the property belonging to someone not charged with a crime to me..not to mention a violation of the property owners second amendment rights..

[yldstrk]

Innocent in a way, but was apparantly sleeping with the loser at least and may have contributed to the whole scenario by saying things like "the only way we can be together is over their dead bodies"...

[Darksheare]

"They also discussed having sex with Kara Borden and her sister"

The writer isn't quite clear on what Ludwig and Lohr were meaning.
It could mean they both were sleeping with Kara, or it could merely mean that they were both in relationships with underage girls.


But, at any rate, it is still sick and still insane.
Wonder how and why Mr. Lohr missed out on the shooting as he was planning on it as per the video.

[H. Paul Pressler IV]

What a tragic story all a byproduct of Network TV, Rock & Roll music and a Godless government School system.

[dead]

Well, that certainly makes the police confiscation of the 54 guns much more reasonable.

This knuckleheaded psycho was up to all sorts of shenanigans.

[injin]

they ought to take all the little monsters that do things like this and string them up...this is the only effective deterrence
to other prospective little monsters that sit around and contemplate such act in their warped little brains.
Hang them high and leave them there.

[mel]

The parents were right about the creep

[berkeleybeej]

What a tragic story all a byproduct of Network TV, Rock & Roll music and a Godless government School system.

Hello -- the kid was home schooled.

[Valpal1]

Ping to the back story.

[bonfire]

I'm beginning to wonder if "small, tight-knit, Christian community", as the media describes, has some problems that they tried to handle amongst themselves instead of going to the police. I understand this thinking, but there comes a point when the law needs to get involved.

You can BET all the kids knew what these two boy were up to. They also knew about Kara's involvement. Now we have this second boy. Wonder how many other kids are involved in this "behavior".

[AppyPappy]

I wonder if that was because the schools couldn't deal with him. I know several home schooled kids who are home schooled because they are "misunderstood" by the school system (i.e. undisciplined).

[Cliff Dweller]

Well it just gets deeper and deeper.

This kid appears to be more than a few bricks shy of a load, or else they were filming this to boast... in any case, these folks are missing some cogs.

[bonfire]

Can we forego the "Homeschooling" vs. "Public Schools" for JUST ONE THREAD????