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To: Rampolla
ID arguments have been around as long as Aristotle and they are philosophical in nature. Order or complexity as such is an observable phenomenon and can be scientifically measured and described.

Historically, science has inevitably produced natural explanations for the development of that era's contemporary examples of observed order or complexity. If you are to contend that such items are scientific proof of God, then you are conceding that your God shrinks with each such advance.

7 posted on 11/18/2005 10:26:24 AM PST by Antonello
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To: Antonello

Such natural explanations are more often than not philosophy of science and not science itself. The scientific method is not self-explanatory. I mentioned no "proofs" for the God of Revelation.

Philosophy is limited in what it can show: a First Mover, an Uncaused Cause, a Designer. This does not prove the God of Revelation. For that you need Faith. Faith tells us that the First Mover, the Uncaused Cause etc. is God, that is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of the Scriptures and Christianity.


47 posted on 11/18/2005 12:28:19 PM PST by Rampolla
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