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To: Just mythoughts
That is pretty much my argument in way, way, way less words (I guess I should stop babbling sometimes). The fact that this is even an issue is that people don't stand back and look at the facts, they argue using their emotions. Do I believe that God created the universe (including us) and that he sent his Son to us for salvation? Yes I do. That is called faith, something that science cannot change, and most likely cannot prove or disprove due to our flawed nature (Man is not perfect). Do I believe that there are things that the Bible does not tell us? Yes. If the Bible told us everything, it would be HUGE. There probably wouldn't be enough MATTER in our solar system to write it all down on, and life really wouldn't be worth living if we knew it all. Like I said, many many cosmologists believe that God exists because there are some mysteries that they cannot explain, contradictions in nature (minute mind you, but still there) that aren't accounted by theory. One good example is the origin of the Universe. If the Universe started off by the Big Bang, then when all of that energy was turned into matter, then an equal portion of Anit-matter would have been created along with it, which means that the Universe would have been destroyed long ago at worst, or that we would observe matter/anti-matter reactions in the cosmos. The fact that neither is/has happened is one of the mysteries that no one can explain without either saying God did it, discounting it, or saying that some other factor is at work there (meaning they don't know and won't humble themselves to admit that God may actually exist).

Too many people won't admit their or our combined ignorance in many things, and that is what leads to many of these useless arguments. My belief......God created the Universe and us (how?? I don't have a clue), this nation was founded on a belief that God endowed us to live free, in his name, and that we are in the fight for that against a lot of people. But the fact that some people on our side, the religious side, argue with their emotions just as much (if not more) than the left wing seculars means that they will be ignored as kooks by anyone that isn't in their mindset or objective about their opinion. It just baffles me.
39 posted on 11/18/2005 5:42:10 AM PST by Laz711 (The Barbarians are in Rome)
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To: Laz711

"That is called faith, something that science cannot change, and most likely cannot prove or disprove due to our flawed nature (Man is not perfect)."

To the contrary, I believe that science (the work of Bohr, Einstein, Heisenberg, et al. on quantum physics) *proves* the need for faith.

Faith is an integral part of the equation of life. Quantum physics suggests as much. God, in His brilliance, set it up that way.


52 posted on 11/18/2005 6:13:38 AM PST by eat it, gore (... As said by Will Ferrell to Algore on SNL ...)
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To: Laz711
Well I understand the word Faith is about things unseen such as the Face of the Heavenly Father while in this flesh body. This earth is visible as is the human flesh body, fossils, etc. When I read Genesis it describes visual, physical, and natural lists of creation, yet planted within is the unseen positive and negative that preexisted and allowed to exist through this flesh age.

This article presents two completely different systems of belief, one based upon knowledge called science/evolution and the other based upon acknowledgment of the Creator that not only created/formed the flesh that was to house the soul, but the soul as well. Note Genesis says that the Adam was not alive until the "breath of life" which means soul was placed into him. Genesis does not tell us when that soul was created.
63 posted on 11/18/2005 7:03:31 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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