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Why intelligent design proponents are wrong.
NY Daily News ^ | 11/18/05 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 11/18/2005 4:34:43 AM PST by StatenIsland

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To: donh
Squirrels for Sam Francis Political Action Committee?

The quote by Sam Francis is about the Janet Jackson - Justin Timberlake Superbowl Show.

But that wasn't the point, was it? The point was not just to hurl a pie in the face of morals and good taste but also of white racial and cultural identity. The message of the ad was that white women are eager to have sex with black men, that they should be eager, and that black men should take them up on it.

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Breaking down the sexual barriers between the races is a major weapon of cultural destruction because it means the dissolution of the cultural boundaries that define breeding and the family and, ultimately, the transmission and survival of the culture itself.

Source

202 posted on 11/18/2005 6:13:05 PM PST by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Behold, I give you the belligerently ignorant, the intellectual Luddite's of our time. Know them for the anti-knowledge disruptors they are.

I Am Spartacus!!!

Sorry....wrong thread.

203 posted on 11/18/2005 6:22:13 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (I'm not a curmudgeon!!!! I've just been in a bad mood since '73)
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To: RobbyS
Every culture is the creation of a tribe.

That's B.S. (BTW, it's also literally Naziesque. That each culture is associated with a specific tribe or ethnicity -- and that "blood" determines culture -- was the PRIMARY presupposition of Nazi ideology. See, for instance, Alfred Rosenberg's The Myth of the Twentieth Century. Without jumping to conclusions, I'm advising other freepers to keep a close eye on your rhetoric, RobbyS.)

According to your homepage you're a Texan, and therefore an American. Your own culture -- the American culture -- is the creation of hundreds, if not thousands, of tribes. Even Texas culture is a rich amalgam contributed to by many tribes (e.g. ethnic Germans, Hispanics, and whoever it was that developed barbecue).

Heck you can even go back thousands of years to, for instance, Rome, and find a multi-tribal origin of it's culture -- Etruscan and Latin -- and later deep incorporation of cultural elements from many others from Greeks (Greek culture itself also being multi-tribal) to Germans.

204 posted on 11/18/2005 6:28:33 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: Stingy Dog
A demented suggesting or acknowledging worship of Darwinism is not required for it to occur is it? In fact the subterfuge seems to be a large component of the cult.

Wolf
205 posted on 11/18/2005 7:24:14 PM PST by RunningWolf (tag line limbo)
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To: Liberal Classic

I'm very happy in an interracial marriage. And her cultural values are certainly more moral and conservative than many on these threads. What kind of a breakdown is that?


207 posted on 11/18/2005 7:39:34 PM PST by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: PatrickHenry

An excellent, well-written article.

Thank you.

Of course evolution is not the enemy of God. Evolution is the mechanism God used to create life.

The problem (OK one of the problems) with ID and its proponents is that THEY are the ones that diminish God. The ID view is that God couldn't get it right to begin with, so He had to tinker with the system afterwards.


208 posted on 11/18/2005 7:45:51 PM PST by 2ndreconmarine (Horse feces (97 citations) vs ID (0 citations) and horse feces wins!!!!!)
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To: 2ndreconmarine

Prepare yourself for the Blaspneme Legion's counterattack.


209 posted on 11/18/2005 8:06:00 PM PST by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Thanks for the ping!


210 posted on 11/18/2005 8:12:24 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Stingy Dog

I'm here! What can I do for you, Stingy Dog?


211 posted on 11/18/2005 8:14:23 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: furball4paws

Likewise.


212 posted on 11/18/2005 8:37:37 PM PST by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: StatenIsland

The good Dr.K is really gonna piss off the snakefondlers with this one.


213 posted on 11/18/2005 8:41:42 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Stultis

You have accidentally hit rhe nub of the matter. Sociobiology is hated because it raises questions asssociated with Nazism. But Nazism did not come from nowhere. It was a bastard child of Darwinism, because Darwinism was quickly appropriated by those looking for a scientific vehicle that could carry the notion that some human groups were naturally inferior to others.
In a society such as ours with a faith in egalitarianism, that is a dangerous notion, and for that reason sociobiology is unwelcome. It weighs heavily on the soul of anything who ascribes to the doctrine that all men are created equal.


214 posted on 11/18/2005 10:58:43 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: RobbyS
It was a bastard child of Darwinism, because Darwinism was quickly appropriated by those looking for a scientific vehicle that could carry the notion that some human groups were naturally inferior to others.

This is in fact a strange inference because the theory of evolution -- and in fact all of biology -- makes no claim as to "superiority" or "inferiority" at all. All that evolution can describe is reproductive fitness, which is an entirely relative characteristic based upon environmental conditions as much as genetic makeup.
215 posted on 11/18/2005 11:37:19 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio
I am not talking about Darwin's theory per se, but about the uses to which it was put. Social Darwinism was already in existence when Darwin published his book, but his theory fed the virulent racism and nationalism that dishonored Europe. Spencers ideas quickly gained the name "social darwinism" because it could be claimed that the theory could be applied to human society.
216 posted on 11/18/2005 11:45:45 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: BlueYonder
"...........Another self appointed spokesman speaks..........."

Hey! Get a clue! Despite what the Creatio-fascists would like, this is a Chat Room.

217 posted on 11/19/2005 5:45:21 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Hank Rearden
"The good Dr.K is really gonna piss off the snakefondlers with this one."


NOT even close!!!! It is gooooood to hear what the knowledge side of the equation has to say.
218 posted on 11/19/2005 5:47:54 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Junior; mlc9852
It's the object, therefore it is "him." If it were a subject, it would be "he."

Sorry, Junior, but mlc9852 is correct. It's the subject of an implied verb "is", as in "better than he is".

219 posted on 11/19/2005 6:00:08 AM PST by Physicist
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To: Junior; mlc9852
Found it. This from Fowler:

In You treat her worse than I treat her, t. is a strong or subordinating conjunction, attaching an adverbial clause to its owner worse. In You treat her worse than I, the same account may be given with the explanation that there is an ellipsis of treat her; or t. may be called a weak or coordinating conjunction linking the two similarly constructed nouns you & I. In You treat her worse than me, the same two names for t. are possible, but the ellipsis is of you treat (not treat her), or the similarly constructed nouns her & me (not you & me); those are the possibilities if the sentence is said with the only sense that an educated person gives it. But an uneducated person may mean by it You treat her worse than I treat her; &, if it is to be so taken, t. is not a conjunction of either kind, but a preposition governing me. Doubts whether a word is a presposition or a conjunction or both are not unknown...It is obvious, however, that recognition of t. as a preposition makes some sentences ambiguous that could otherwise have only one meaning, & is to that extent undesirable.

Boldface added by me.

220 posted on 11/19/2005 6:19:19 AM PST by Physicist
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