Why intelligent design proponents are wrong.

NY Daily News ^ | 11/18/05 | Charles Krauthammer

[Physicist]

You mean the fossil record that even evolutionists admit has numerous 'gaps'

The historical record has gaps. Does that mean nothing happened in the dark ages?

and no transitional forms?

They're all transitional forms.

[RobbyS]

We all know that Darwin was "wrong," in that the mechanism he proposed does not by itself explain everything. On the other hand, later science have been able to create a logical construct that makes his theory fit with other physical theories. On the other hand, they have a problem with anthropology. Do we accept that man is a single species of one species, or are there actual "races" of mankind. I mean, if evolution is a fact, it did not suddenly end 50,000 years ago, and there might be radical differences among isolated groups of mankind, s that there might indeed be innate differences in intelligences of certain groups of humans just as there seem to be between breeds of dogs. The equality of mankind, if true, is a religious doctrine.

[shuckmaster]

the purpose of Creationism/ID is to destroy the Conservative Movement and this website. Those that practice or spread these lies are either Evil Trolls... or are unwitting ignoramuses

Thanks! That needs repeating often!

[mlc9852]

That's the beauty - we can all teach our children whatever we want to. That way everyone is happy.

[mlc9852]

Yeah, you're right - LOL.

[shuckmaster]

Great post!

[mlc9852]

"The equality of mankind, if true, is a religious doctrine."

When you talk about equality of mankind, do you mean in terms of rights or in terms of being equal in abilities?

[mlc9852]

"No one likes to think anyone is smarter or better than him "

Should be "better than he". LOL

[mlc9852]

I bet Heidelburg woman would never do that.

[RightWhale]

Is there a link between those who propose ID and those who are scared of Avian Flu? They wouldn't be any of the same people, would they?

[dmz]

Thanks for outing my druid plot, dude.

[RobbyS]

I mean the moral unity of man. If we are all sons of Adam and daughters of eve, then the affairs of man are are family affair. The killing of Abel by Cain is an act of immorality. If Cain and Abel are different kinds of animal, then the killing is "natural." Like a lion killing a leopard.

[megatherium]

Thank you for the correction. I read Who Wrote the Bible by Friedman years ago, and my memory was porous. A bit of Googling reminds me that the antecedents were indeed Sumerian; however, the Babylonian flood story (in the Epic of Gilgamesh) is highly similar to the story in Genesis.

[Junior]

It's the object, therefore it is "him." If it were a subject, it would be "he."

[js1138]

If intelligent design is false it will fall out of favor, and be discredited on the facts. The world will still spin, and birds will still fly.

ID has been around in its present form for over 200 years without doing any research or contributing anything to the understanding of biology. The only honest thing it has done is retreat in the face of accumulating facts.

It has now retreated to the point where its main advocates -- Behe and Denton -- accept evolution and common descent, just as mainstream biologists do.

But you knew that already, right?

[mlc9852]

Would different races be different "species"? How would you determine something like that? Brain size?

[mlc9852]

I'm not scared of bird flu yet since only about 60 people have died. I'm more scared of the garden-variety flu that kills over 30,000 here each year and no end in sight.