Chinese build a high-tech army within an army-(15% Highly capable new toys etc)

CSM ^ | November 17, 2005 | Robert Marquand

[Flavius]

[tdewey10]

We need more subs. China is the greatest long term threat to our nation this century.

[forYourChildrenVote4Bush]

Question...

After 3 years of Americans Dumping on Bush (CNN, MSNBC .. and the rest of the sh*tty media) on a war that cost 2000 lives (Defending a rape on America) do you really think you can match up against China... phsycologically that is???

In 1979 the USA was seen as week (because Carter the peanut) by the Iranians, now, the rest of the Arab countries see the US as the Iranians saw in 1979.

Many Americans are portrayed (by the MSM) as being wobbly at the knees, this will bring more than rape to the US...sad

[forYourChildrenVote4Bush]

week = weak

[tet68]

"We can't expect that we can completely protect a carrier battle group when it got into theater."

And so the German High Seas Fleet remained in harbor.
Then too, the Luftwaffe could not guarantee the security
of the Fleet during the proposed operation Sealion, so the
Wehrmacht could not guarantee a secured beachhead, and
all that force projection, wasn't projected.

Hoping our current and future officers are prepared to
go in harm's way, for which there is no guarantee

[tet68]

As one rather liberal intellectual told the Monitor, "In our hearts, most of us want China to be great - we feel deeply a desire to help run Asia and the world."

(One couldn't illustrate the hubris of socialist liberals
any better.)

What concerns some American China experts is that creating a modern army will also create the dynamic to use a modern army. Analysts like Mulvenon point to possible unintended consequences of a buildup.

"What I worry about is the military influencing foreign policy," he says,

(What I worry about is the politicos, influencing military
policy.)

[manwiththehands]

Since she's trying to appear "moderate" and in support of our troops, someone ask Hitlery what she's willing to do about the Chinese threat.

[redangus]

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[Wiz]

ping

[PokeyJoe]

A possible J-10, as mentioned above. Sorta looks like a cross between an Israeli Lavi and an American F-16 - doesn't it?

[gaijin]

It is bringing an indigenous small-wing F-10 fighter off the production line

It was NOT indigenous. That's ingenuous. The F-10 is a rip-off of the Israeli LAVI, which is a rip-off of the US F-16.

[Jeff Head]

Here are some recent photos of the J-10:

[Fee]

That is a J-10. Recommend tracking Chinese military development on the website www.sinodefence.com. Excellent source for Chinese hardware gathered from open sources.

[Paul Ross]

This spring, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said in Singapore that China's military rise was illegitimate because China faced no threats. This point was seen as tactically clumsy even in Pentagon circles.

Really, name names. Let's see who is in these supposed "circles." The discredited revisionist rose-colored glasses wearing Thomas PM Barnett????

"We [the US] spend $400 billion on defense. We don't have the right to decide other nations' threats," commented a career defense official in Washington.

Names. I want names. This 'career' defense official is obviously way way past time for being cashiered. Another Xlintonite for sure.

WE are paying for the damned Chi-Comm buildup with U.S. dollars being funnelled by the trillion into their economy. We have EVERY right to object if the Chinese are building up a force to threaten us. That "official" needs firing. BIG TIME.

[Paul Ross]

We [the US] spend $400 billion on defense.

Note how this "official"'s even-handed kind of skips over the fact that, unlike the Chi-Comms, we have been attacked, and are at war at the moment?

[razoroccam]

In 1939, a small democratic island stood between the US and a totalitarian fascist dictatorship.
Today, another small democratic island stands between the US and another totalitarian communist dictatorship.

We were slow in getting off the ground in 1939. Will we be slow again?

[Flavius]

well for one thing, half the country will not be for it

[Travis McGee]

bttt

[Paul Ross]

Historically, in fact, China is not an aggressor. It rarely attacks.

B.S.!!

Who writes this CRAP? The Discredited Thomas PM Barnett???

This totally bogus assertion (quite typical communist-apologist-mole double-speak) glosses over the history of Chi-Comm aggressions.

A short list: South Korea (Invaded rescuing the invading North Korean's). Xianjing (invaded, subjugated and colonized). Tibet (invaded in 1961, subjugated and colonized). Vietnam (invaded in 1979, a "nose-bloodying" "lesson" as to who was boss among the communists).... Thailand (numerous CPT Communist Party of Thailand "insurgency" invasions along the border and infiltration operations). India (invaded and territory annexed in 1962).

The Paracel Islands were invaded and annexed in 1974. Some of the Spratley Islands invaded and annexed in 1988. Mischief Reef was recently invaded and annexed from the Phillipines in 1998.

Taiwan (continuously threatened, and war games ominously pointed at invasion, along with missiles fired 90 miles over and past Taiwan).

And the Chi-comms recently made clear this past year via an orchestrated "crystal nacht" their enmity to Japan. Their 1995 plane buzzings of the Sankaku Islands of Japan. Their naval incursions of the past several years.

These are all the clear signs of China being an aggressive, belligerant "bad neighbor". Not a sympathetic "victim".

And since Mao's bloody accession to power, precisely WHEN has China ever been invaded? The only possible instances are the border wars with their fellow communists, the Soviet Union in March 1969, when armed clashes broke out along the Ussuri River on Damansky Island, followed by more in August. We only have the Chi-Comms word for their not initiating these, and it being Soviet aggression. But the whole pattern of their conduct under Mao, and since, however, makes it clear that these were likely initiated by the Chinese.

If the Soviets had really wanted to conquer China...it would have been "over" rather definitively and promptly. Bejing would have been a glowing blue crater for the next 20,000 years. At any rate since then, with the collapse of the Soviets...the Chinese have absolutely no fear of invasion from that direction...and more or less they've been colonizing the border areas with Russia...which appears powerless to prevent it.