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I'm really tired of the "bridges to nowhere" stuff. This is just my opinion as someone who's been here most of my adult life.
1 posted on 11/16/2005 3:56:15 PM PST by redpoll
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You chose to live in a remote part of the country. In a budget crunch, why should the rest of America pay to let you live in a remote village?

Grow up. If you want a bridge to connect you to Anchorage, get Alaska to pay for it. It isn't New York's job to pay for your infrastructure. I still pay tolls on my bridges and highways.

2 posted on 11/16/2005 3:59:00 PM PST by jude24 ("Thy law is written on the hearts of men, which iniquity itself effaces not." - St. Augustine)
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There is no "nowhere" in Alaska. It's truly God's country. Too bad the British didn't buy it for Canada, when Russia put it on Ebay.
3 posted on 11/16/2005 4:00:38 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA (")
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tough. You chose to live there. You get the benefits of living there. You want a damn bridge, build it with your own damn money.

Un freaking believable.
4 posted on 11/16/2005 4:01:12 PM PST by flashbunny (LOCKBOX: Where most republicans keep their gonads after they arrive in Washington D.C.)
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Should first be a toll ferry paid by users. If growth indicates the need for a bridge, make it a toll bridge paid for by the users. The Causeway and Crescent City Connection in New Orleans are both structures built and paid for with toll fares, plus we have toll ferries up and down the river.


5 posted on 11/16/2005 4:04:38 PM PST by Kirkwood
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The Mackinac Straits bridge went from lower Michigan to "nowhere."

It still does.

6 posted on 11/16/2005 4:04:38 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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Need em so bad? Try tapping into that 30 BILLION pile of dough Alaska is sitting on.


10 posted on 11/16/2005 4:06:16 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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They're a needed part of the development of the state.

Sounds like an issue for Alaskans. Let me know how it works out, but don't ask me to pay for it.

12 posted on 11/16/2005 4:06:58 PM PST by SittinYonder (Flea, feather, bird, egg, nest, twig, branch, limb, tree, and the bog down in the valley - o.)
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All right, you convinced me. I actually wish more of your state was available by road. It's beautiful, but just way too hard to get around. Mostly, I blamed environmentalists for this, but I had never really thought through the infrastructure and ROI issues. Probably we could recover some of those investment costs over the long run by being able to better utilize, appreciate and enjoy those resources if we could actually visit them without the danger and expense of small aircraft.

However, there are still some awfully scary pieces of pork in the highway bill which would not stand up to the slightest scrutiny.
14 posted on 11/16/2005 4:09:01 PM PST by Wiseghy (Discontent is the want of self-reliance: it is infirmity of will. – Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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So should every remote village get $250 million in taxpayer funds, or are you special?


20 posted on 11/16/2005 4:12:54 PM PST by ThinkDifferent (I am a leaf on the wind)
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The village where I'm typing this is 280 miles from the nearest road. As a result, a trip to Wal-Mart costs me $500 on a small plane to Fairbanks. A gallon of milk costs $12 at the local grocery store. Gas is running at $4.20 a gallon.

So move already, whiner!

25 posted on 11/16/2005 4:16:51 PM PST by rogue yam
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Simple question were is the State of Alaska Oil revenue in this

And you point is valid if in fact the bridge is opening up a large chunk of prime land that is now unusable...after all New Orleans and a good part of the gulf coast is “nowhere” right now it unusable land until the infrastructure is built/rebuilt…

Built a bridge to prime land is far more logical that building a levy around a swamp to keep it dry or building bridge and roads and orher public infrastructure below what is hurricane storm surge line

33 posted on 11/16/2005 4:30:41 PM PST by tophat9000 (CA politics …San Andres Fault is now the San Andres Fix)
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You are nuts if you think that the IRS should take my tax dollars at gunpoint so 50 of your state citizens can have a bridge to get off their island.

I don't mind Alaska getting its share of the federal pie ( though I'd prefer if we just did away with the federal pie entirely ). But its going to have to have some purpose. For that kind of capital investment of my tax dollars I demand a better return that 50 people being happy about it.

Good Lord.


34 posted on 11/16/2005 4:32:13 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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It seem everyone here is falling for this "Bridge to nowhere" line. It is so easy to lie with statistics. Any statistic about Alaska can be made to look very bad if you divide by population. Try looking at spending per mile of coastline and reality is put into perspective (Alaska has 6 times the coastline of the lower 48 states) we come out dead last when it come to federal spending on ports, bridges, and harbors. This trick has been used by the liberals for years to make a good conservative like Senator Stevens look like a pork monger.
Another frequently used trick is to compare federal spending with " income tax revenue", where it is easy to show that the feds spend a lot more than comes in from "taxes" due to the tiny population here. It is easy to conveniently ignore the millions upon millions of dollars in natural resource revenues (technically not taxes in libspeak) from the oil, mining and fishing industries. (Federal leasing fees from ANWR alone are projected to be 2.6 BILLION dollars from the 90% federal share).

Most Alaskans are used to this. We have our own "Hate Stevens" crowd of liberals here, kind of a subset of the hate Bush/Hate America type that would love nothing better than to see Stevens replaced with a liberal like Tony Knowles.

Even if you don,t believe me take heart, the envirowackos and their New York lawyers will be on this project like flies on feces and the likely-hood is that it will be shut down for "environmental" reasons (we might have the audacity to develop some of the "pristine wilderness" on Gravinia island). and we will spend millions (of state money) to fight it. and as in most cases where we try to develop things here, loose.

Let the Alaskans develop their land and resources (and keep the revenue) and there would no need for any federal spending here.


38 posted on 11/16/2005 4:40:25 PM PST by Species8472
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Pay for your own bridges. And Boston should pay for their own whole in the ground. All pork is wasteful crap.

I don't my state taking it either. If we, as citizens of my state, decide we want something we should raise the money ourselves or do without.


39 posted on 11/16/2005 4:42:30 PM PST by Fledermaus (Don't Ever Make Our Constituents Realize Any Truth)
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Also, why don't you just spend your state's one year payoff of oil royalties given to every citizen? It's the cost of the bridge.


41 posted on 11/16/2005 4:44:31 PM PST by Fledermaus (Don't Ever Make Our Constituents Realize Any Truth)
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You're just an easy target. Have no doubt that the people who are criticizing you on this thread are represented by people who are bringing home pork to their districts as well.


46 posted on 11/16/2005 4:54:00 PM PST by andyk (Fear my strategery of misunderestimation.)
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Isn't there a cheaper way to do it than to build a $250 million bridge?


47 posted on 11/16/2005 4:55:15 PM PST by thoughtomator (Bring Back HCUA!)
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Acquiring Alaska was a strategic move for an earlier time when foot soldiers were a greater threat; later, the natural resources proved to be of considerable value so development followed along the cost/benefit trail.

Now, we're stuck with a vocal set of freeloaders represented by some relocated professional politicians dreaming of sunshine while apparently addicted to moonshine; the place ain't livable, give it up, already. :)


50 posted on 11/16/2005 4:56:11 PM PST by Old Professer (Fix the problem, not the blame!)
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Not one word of this screed is at all relevant to the question of why this should be paid for by the federal government, rather than the Alaska state government or the local government or even (Ghu forbid) a private developer hoping to get in on the ground floor of that "many square miles of flat land that could be developed".


52 posted on 11/16/2005 4:57:56 PM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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Interesting read on the Gravina bridge
54 posted on 11/16/2005 5:06:18 PM PST by Diverdogz
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