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To: arthurus

Bio diesel will never be more than peripheral.



If we are talking about the process of turning cooking oil into fuel, then I agree. Ater all, there isn't much difference between growing corn to generate corn oil for biodiesel, and growing it to generate corn sugar to ferment into ethanol.


21 posted on 11/16/2005 2:14:19 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Beelzebubba

Even with the elevated price of oil now ethanol still requires ggovernment subsidy to be marketable. It is a pretend alternative that is pushed and subsidized to keep tax money going to "the farmers."


43 posted on 11/16/2005 2:41:03 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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To: Beelzebubba
Natural Resources Research, Vol. 14, No. 1, March 2005 ( C 2005) DOI: 10.1007/s11053-005-4679-8 Ethanol Production Using Corn, Switchgrass, and Wood; Biodiesel Production Using Soybean and Sunflower

David Pimentel1,3 and Tad W. Patzek2 Received and accepted 30 January 2005

Energy outputs from ethanol produced using corn, switchgrass, and wood biomass were each less than the respective fossil energy inputs. The same was true for producing biodiesel using soybeans and sunflower, however, the energy cost for producing soybean biodiesel was only slightly negative compared with ethanol production.

Findings in terms of energy outputs compared with the energy inputs were: • Ethanol production using corn grain required 29% more fossil energy than the ethanol fuel produced. • Ethanol production using switchgrass required 50% more fossil energy than the ethanol fuel produced. • Ethanol production using wood biomass required 57% more fossil energy than the ethanol fuel produced. • Biodiesel production using soybean required 27% more fossil energy than the biodiesel fuel produced (Note, the energy yield from soy oil per hectare is far lower than the ethanol yield from corn). • Biodiesel production using sunflower required 118% more fossil energy than the biodiesel fuel produced.

70 posted on 11/16/2005 4:14:02 PM PST by OregonRancher (illigitimus non carborundum)
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