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To: Toddsterpatriot
Just a reminder, I posted a link to an article for discussion. I post a lot of links to articles for discussion. That doesn't mean I understand everything in the articles, or vouch for everything in the articles. It means I expect discussion so I can better understand the article. If I were held to account for everything in every article I post I could only post on political science, and maybe only on con law. I am usually not stalked all over the board for posting a link to an article, either.

That said, here is the response of the guy who wrote the article:

The Fed buys securities and pays for them with money they created out of thin air. These transactions occur as Securities Sold Under Agreement to Repurchase on the Seller's (Banks") books. It is Money and Banking 101, done under Open Market Operations. The poster is wrong.

141 posted on 11/18/2005 9:28:53 AM PST by phelanw
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To: phelanw
That doesn't mean I understand everything in the articles, or vouch for everything in the articles.

That's fine but you did seem to think that stock repos could boost the market. They can't.

That said, here is the response of the guy who wrote the article:

You e-mailed this guy?

The Fed buys securities and pays for them with money they created out of thin air.

Yes, Treasury securities not stocks.

142 posted on 11/18/2005 9:36:41 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (The Federal Reserve did not kill JFK. Greenspan was not on the grassy knoll.)
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To: phelanw
The Fed buys securities and pays for them with money they created out of thin air....

This is true, only sometimes they don't even use the air. 

When you walk by a bank and you see painted on the glass "Assets over $3,000,000" you may be imagining that inside the bank is a money bin bigger than Scrooge Mc Duck's.  The fact is that when you deposit $10 in the bank, your deposit is not an asset (to them), it's a liability.  The banks assets are the loans the bank has made.

You and I create money out of thin air too; in fact most money is created by ordinary citizens like us.  Every time you loan someone money (or put it in the bank, buy a bond, etc.) you keep your money in the form of the asset, and the recipient now has money that didn't exist before the loan was made.  Interest rate hikes and cuts can help us or keep us from creating money.  The Fed has an effect on interest rates but not nearly as much as it wants us to think --we have the most power because we have most of the money.

People often get money confused with wealth.  You can have a stack of twenties on the table and owe it to the bank --you've got money and no wealth.  There are other people who have wealth and no money --every once in a while we hear about a farmer who's land-poor, meaning all land no cash.

143 posted on 11/18/2005 10:59:48 AM PST by expat_panama
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