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To: P-Marlowe
"Interesting. When you can't agree on definitions it makes debating difficult. "

Agreed, but as a scientist definitions are important to me and should be established prior to any postulating. This does not make debate impossible it improves the quality of debate.

"I always thought there was a pretty standard definition of that word. The standard definition as used in the Bible (and every other book I've ever read) is to bring into being or to cause to exist."

Ah be careful, you have just generalized or created a generic definition of creation with that of the Bible's. Taken out of context this would be disastrous to any scientific or logical treatment of this subject.

My definition of creation in the context of the universe is reconciled with scientific principle. In other words I think God created the universe at a molecular level and "grew" it based on the principles he created at the time of the first molecule coming into existence. I do not believe he takes a direct hand in that creation after that moment, as that would rob free will from the equation, which God and Jesus in the new testament ministries promote. Free will is not just a function of expression with actions or choice, it has to also derive from the physical structure of space and time and matter. I am happy to debate this in more detail if you like.

"And while you are at it, what is your definition of "A Christian?"

This is defined by my religion

"Do you believe such things as: The Deity of Christ? His Virgin Birth? His sinless life? His vicarious death on the cross for the atonement of your sins? His bodily resurrection? "

Wholeheartedly

"Just Curious."

a human trait :-)

673 posted on 11/17/2005 5:32:59 AM PST by Kelly_2000 ( (Because they stand on a wall and say nothing is going to hurt you tonight. Not on my watch))
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To: Kelly_2000
My definition of creation in the context of the universe is reconciled with scientific principle.

Do you believe in miracles?

Did Jesus turn water into wine? Did Jesus walk upon the water? Did Jesus heal a man born blind? Did God write the 10 commandments on tablets of stone with his own hand?

Do you believe any of that stuff?

684 posted on 11/17/2005 6:04:26 AM PST by P-Marlowe
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