How do you ask for an investigation into the investigation of an already outed CIA agent that was recently just was re-outed?? Is the CIA and the Democratic Party that dumb as to use an already outed CIA agent as the basis for impeachment to get the President?
Let's examine the way the NOC NOC story is told which sure gives that impression that it could be Valerie.
The quotes by Rustmann Plame worked under official cover in Europe in the early 1990s say, as a U.S. embassy attache
before switching to nonofficial cover a few years later.
Mostly Plame posed as a business analyst or a student in what Rustmann describes as a nice European city.
the quote by a former CIA official familiar with the matter.
In early 1995 the French rolled up five CIA officers, including a woman who had been working as a NOC under business cover for about five years.
Although the NOC caught in Paris in 1995 was simply sent home, it might not have been so easy in an Arab country,
All of the above leads me to believe that it was Valerie. That Russman did not put his name to the quote as being familiar with the matter is suspect. The writer had to go to a different source for just that one little section of the story. A 24 year veteran of the CIA who was already being interviewed was not familiar with that case when a few paragraphs prior he was declaring Plame was a NOC.
My guess is that this little fiasco was when the media first learned about Valerie Plame. Another interesting thing to note is that the whole CIA spy fiasco was very helpful to the Chirac campaign. Chiracs opponent was accused of outing the whole incident to the news media to divert attention from his wire tapping scandal. In reality, the Interior Minister Charles Pasqua went public two months after the Clinton Administration was informed and the Clinton Administration refused to recall the CIA agents. Pasqua claims that the US actually made the whole matter public and was the source of the leak. Pasqua was accused of playing politics by not quietly informing the US as the US had previously in French spy cases.
Sound familiar!! I know that some might that the acts above just shows how stupid the CIA is in general, but the above described spying indicates otherwise. The NOC was intelligent enough to avoid revealing personal information as well as any photographs, but she asks a an out of character question about Hollywood to a source.
The End result of all of this stupidity was the Election of Chirac which was also supposed to be the conclusion of the current CIA outing, but this time it did not work as planed because Kerry lost.
SBD
1 posted on
11/15/2005 5:44:34 PM PST by
SBD1
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Is the CIA and the Democratic Party that dumb as to use an already outed CIA agent as the basis for impeachment to get the President?No, the Republicans are that dumb to let them.
2 posted on
11/15/2005 5:53:26 PM PST by
nickcarraway
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5 posted on
11/15/2005 6:27:42 PM PST by
devolve
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So Plame's boss says she hadn't worked under cover for years. Did we know that he said this before?
6 posted on
11/15/2005 6:33:57 PM PST by
Peach
(The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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10 posted on
11/15/2005 7:04:25 PM PST by
Dajjal
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Good catch! Now if we can only get Rush banging this drum.
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Plame as an exceptional officer but says her ability to remain under cover was jeopardized by her marriage in 1998 to the higher-profile American diplomat. Plame all but came in from the cold last week, making her first public appearance, at a Washington lunch in honor of her husband, who was receiving an award for whistle blowing. The blown spys one not-so-secret request? No photographs, pleaseWhat a bunch of nonsense. The "blown spy" basically gave it up when she married Wilson in 1998. And no photographs? Did Vanity Fair get those instructions?
16 posted on
11/15/2005 10:52:14 PM PST by
Dolphy
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Fred Rustmann, a former CIA official who put in 24 years as a spymaster and was Plames boss for a few years, says Plame worked under official cover in Europe in the early 1990s say, as a U.S. embassy attache before switching to nonofficial cover a few years later. Mostly Plame posed as a business analyst or a student in what Rustmann describes as a nice European city. Plame was never a so-called deep-cover NOC, he said, meaning the agency did not create a complex cover story about her education, background, job, personal life and even hobbies and habits that would stand up to intense scrutiny by foreign governments. [NOCs] are on corporate rolls, and if anybody calls the corporation, the secretary says, Yeah, he works for us, says Rustmann. The degree of backstopping to a NOCs cover is a very good indication of how deep that cover really is.The Boston Globe checked out Plame's "fictive" employer company and found a very obvious CIA facade. No one was trying to give Valerie deep cover. You can look it up as they say.
18 posted on
11/16/2005 7:23:58 AM PST by
thegreatbeast
(Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
19 posted on
11/16/2005 7:25:21 AM PST by
Rocket1968
(Durbin must resign - NOW!)
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What do the Wilsons serve for dinner? nocworst.
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It was only after several months of dating Ambassador Joseph Wilson that Plame, supposedly a private energy analyst, revealed the name of her true employer: the I CIA. I thought Wilson said she told him on their third date during a heavy make out session, that she worked for the CIA. Are we to assume they didn't get around to having their third date for several months, or are we to assume that Wilson is such a liar that he would lie even about this? I vote for the latter.
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This information is certainly interesting regarding the
1995 Paris flap. Since 1994, at least four American allies -- France, Germany, Italy, and India -- have terminated clandestine CIA operations on their soil. First, CIA capers moved to France in the mid-1990s. Richard Holm had been a CIA paramilitary officer in the Congo in 1965 and then moved on to Hong Kong in the 1970s and 1980s. Subsequently he became the CIA station chief in Paris in 1993 and soon botched an operation spying on French trade strategy. The operation was exposed by the French government in January 1995, and there was little shock since the two governments had been spying on one another for years. Holm ran a number of operations against the French, attempting to steal military, aerospace, and economic secrets. However, one American spy worried Holm. She failed to tell her superiors about a love affair which she had with a foreigner. She told her boyfriend about her double life and tried to employ him as a double spy. Some CIA officials wanted her fired, but they feared a sexual discrimination lawsuit. The CIA merely warned her and told her never to return to Paris.
In spite of this she did return to Paris and Holm again used her as a spy. She infiltrated the French government and recruited a source who was close to Prime Minister Edouard Balladur and his inner circle. Holm then briefed the American ambassador, Pamela Harriman, who feared adverse repercussions by the French government against the United States. However, National Security Council adviser Anthony Lake wanted this unnamed spy to continue, even though the French had been aware since 1992 of her mission as well as to three other operations. The French were feeding false information to her and other CIA spies. Then in January 1995 the French government set the trap. Interior minister Charles Pasqua leaked the story and informed Harriman that five CIA officials including Holm were being expelled. As a result CIA Inspector General Richard Hitz sent an investigative team to Paris, at which time the New York Times leaked a story of this debacle which would normally have remained classified
25 posted on
11/16/2005 12:11:36 PM PST by
SBD1
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Mary-Ann Baumgartner became pretty famous, especially in France. There was at least one book written about this and the author interviewed her.
If she were Plame we'd have heard about it.
This is off base, I'm afraid.
26 posted on
11/16/2005 3:18:23 PM PST by
Sam Hill
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27 posted on
11/16/2005 3:30:38 PM PST by
FreedomCalls
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