Pentagon Used White Phosphorous in Iraq...

washingtonpost ^ | Tuesday, November 15, 2005; 6:02 PM | ROBERT BURNS (AP)

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Pentagon Used White Phosphorous in Iraq By ROBERT BURNS The Associated Press Tuesday, November 15, 2005; 6:02 PM

WASHINGTON -- Pentagon officials acknowledged Tuesday that U.S. troops used white phosphorous as a weapon against insurgent strongholds during the battle of Fallujah last November. But they denied an Italian television news report that the spontaneously flammable material was used against civilians.

Lt. Col. Barry Venable, a Pentagon spokesman, said that while white phosphorous is most frequently used to mark targets or obscure a position, it was used at times in Fallujah as an incendiary weapon against enemy combatants.

"It was not used against civilians," Venable said.

The spokesman referred reporters to an article in the March-April 2005 edition of the Army's Field Artillery magazine, an official publication, in which veterans of the Fallujah fight spelled out their use of white phosphorous and other weapons. The authors used the shorthand "WP" in referring to white phosphorous.

"WP proved to be an effective and versatile munition," the authors wrote. "We used it for screening missions at two breeches and, later in the fight, as a potent psychological weapon against the insurgents in trench lines and spider holes when we could not get effects on them with HE (high explosive)" munitions.

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

http://forum.protestwarrior.com/viewtopic.php?t=115093&highlight=

[Mike Darancette]

After 9/11 I was hopeful the American people would have been outraged, scared and mad enough to find the balls to do what was necessary to fight the insidious enemy. But it would seem that we as a nation lack the guts or attention span required.

I guess it will have to get a lot worse before a concerted effort can be undertaken but it will cost hundreds of thousands of American lives. I hope it won't be too late.

[Darksheare]

Cripes, that troll 'Socialist' still posts there.
I remember when he thought he could come here to play.

[Darksheare]

Just saw one of Twiw's threads..
*ugh*

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

That plan didn't work out too well for him, did it?

;-)

[Darksheare]

I just saw a second Twiw thread.. and they got their butt handed to them.
Big time.
And they don't seem to know it.

[Tymesup]

A pity there wasn't much attention paid when CS gas was used on civilians at Waco.

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

They never do.

That's the beauty of PW.

They just allow these idiots to ramble on endlessly, until they've punched themselves out.

I wonder how many posts Soci-the ne plus ultra of clueless forum trolls-got in here before being ZOTted.

[Young Werther]

Hey! I worked for Praxair Semiconductor and our two biggest products were arsine gas, (arsenic derivative) and phosphene, (phosphorous gas). These are the two dopants used to make computer processor chips and memory chips.

The Al Quaeda have a chip on their shoulders so maybe they need alittle doping!!!

It all adds up 10101 +1 = 10110!

[Tymesup]

There was a thread here about the US using Israeli bullets until some Congressman thought they might be offensive. He wanted us to only use them for target practice.

[Darksheare]

Yeeek.
Too bad they can't smack Twiw just for existing, sorta give them a time out every now and then to let them get some fresh air and exercise.

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

She was banned three previous times.

That must be some kind of record for PW trolls.

[wolficatZ]

We are very happy you are here, Tommie!

http://www.ww2gyrene.org/weapons_flamethrower.htm

[Prodigal Son]

Willie Pete is a standard round for mortar crews. They use it to make smoke screens mainly but also to set fire to some targets. A 'shake and bake' is a fire for effect where HE (high explosive) and WP are both used.

Using WP is routine as far as I am aware. I'm amazed this is getting any media coverage.

[JoeGar]

white phosphorous shells are a standard weapon used by field artillery units and are not banned by any international weapons convention to which the U.S. is a signatory.

[Rca2000]

Personally, when I see that picture, I just wish one little item would drop on that group. Just one bomb, weighing less than 1,000 LB.

A B-61.

Those in the know understand what a B-61 is. Let's just say, that a whole fleet of bombers, loaded to the hilt with willy pete, would look like a child's cap(for a capgun) compared to a B-61, set to the LOWEST yield!!

[Jim Noble]

Pentagon Used White Phosphorous in Iraq...

Good.

Use more.

[Rca2000]

It is a war. and in war, people get killed, and things get broken.

War is hell. We all now that. But, WHY is it so hard, for the DUmmies to understand, that if we don't fight them over THERE, they will be using things against us HERE, that are a lot more dangerous, than phosphorus

[RVN Airplane Driver]

Willie Pete, just like napalm usually sucks the air out of their lungs and then burns them and then they die. That is what those two are designed to do. BTW it really can smell good in the morning!!

[R. Scott]

I don't understand how using a smoke screan is illegal

WP isn’t just smoke – it is a mass of burning phosphorous metal that happens to produce a lot of white smoke. It is generally used as a marking round – but also burns anything it touches. The old Viet Nam Era phrase, “Bring P on them” meant something more than simply marking the position for artillery or air strikes.
That said, I am all in favor of using Willie Peter. .