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Pension Agency Reports $22.8B Shortfall
AP via Yahoo! ^ | November 15, 2005 | Marcy Gordon

Posted on 11/15/2005 2:13:25 PM PST by Brilliant

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If the taxpayer had not guaranteed the UAW's pensions, my suspicion is that they'd be a bit more reasonable in their negotiations with GM, and GM would not be going bankrupt.
1 posted on 11/15/2005 2:13:27 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

Amen. Plus, this is going to be the next huge S&L style bailout that we all end up paying for.


2 posted on 11/15/2005 2:16:29 PM PST by Steelerfan
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To: Brilliant

What a surprise!!!! ////NOT/////

Just wait until GM declares bankruptcy and it's pensioners gets added to the mix


3 posted on 11/15/2005 2:18:42 PM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: Brilliant
That is okay. We need those taxes to give the illegals more free stuff. Never mind that people who have put in to these funds will not get them, just as long as the illegals and the dreaded poor get their money.
4 posted on 11/15/2005 2:21:21 PM PST by RetiredArmy (I have no faith in any politician or political party any more. They all lie for their agendas.)
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the unions drove all these businesses out of business... now the rest of us will have to pick up the tab.


5 posted on 11/15/2005 2:26:28 PM PST by conservative physics
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To: dennisw

Hang onto any assets you have-especially gold and cash. Property (if you can afford the taxes) is important, also.


6 posted on 11/15/2005 2:26:43 PM PST by hkp037
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To: Brilliant
Traditional employer-paid pension plans, giving retirees a fixed monthly amount based on salary and years of employment, are now estimated to be underfunded by as much as $450 billion. That could jeopardize the retirement security of millions of Americans, lawmakers have warned.

Now why do I have a feeling that my IRA and 401K are going to be "shared" with quite a few people to make up for this shortfall?
7 posted on 11/15/2005 2:28:45 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: conservative physics

There is going to be no retirement and no social security in the very near future. Why pay into it?


8 posted on 11/15/2005 2:29:00 PM PST by hkp037
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Any Boomer who thinks that his retirement will be as long or as secure (financially) as were those of his parents, he's

CRAZY

9 posted on 11/15/2005 2:32:42 PM PST by Gay State Conservative
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I call them sheep


10 posted on 11/15/2005 2:35:27 PM PST by hkp037
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To: Gay State Conservative

Depends on the fund that your retirement is funded by . Big corporations can tank, but the state funded pension systems will still thrive on tax generated money .


11 posted on 11/15/2005 2:39:12 PM PST by Renegade
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Funny, I told my wife bout this years ago and she agreed, but then I said 'there goes So.Africa' when TUTU got the prize. We had both lived thru the 15/18 % mortgage thing and watched many business folks go under cause of those rates back then. If fannie and freddie are 'exposed'....Watch OUT!


12 posted on 11/15/2005 2:39:45 PM PST by litehaus
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To: Brilliant

thats nothing!


13 posted on 11/15/2005 2:43:17 PM PST by BurbankKarl (NRA EPL)
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To: Renegade

BIG state revenues HOPE the derivitives markets make them money. Why then, do your taxes keep going up? They're all losing their BUTT! That's why your taxes are going up! Get ready, folks!


14 posted on 11/15/2005 2:43:40 PM PST by hkp037
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To: Brilliant

this is peanuts, why the money for a bridge in Alaska costs about the same as the pensions for 10% of the retired people of America. /sarcasm off


15 posted on 11/15/2005 2:43:53 PM PST by q_an_a
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To: RetiredArmy

This has nothing to do with illegals. Do you look for illegals under your bed at night?


16 posted on 11/15/2005 2:44:46 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Brilliant
If the taxpayer had not guaranteed the UAW's pensions, my suspicion is that they'd be a bit more reasonable in their negotiations with GM, and GM would not be going bankrupt.

A GM bankruptcy would likely be yet another load on the PBGC. Is there a bankruptcy date pool?

17 posted on 11/15/2005 2:45:19 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: hkp037

In the " People's Republic of New Jersey ", all your dollars belong to us !


18 posted on 11/15/2005 2:47:14 PM PST by Renegade
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There has been an explosion in recent years in the number of big, ailing companies -- especially in labor-heavy industries like airlines and steel -- transferring their pension liabilities to the PBGC.

Hmmm...is AP incapable of saying LABOR UNIONS??

19 posted on 11/15/2005 2:48:49 PM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

No. They are just down the highway every day. Want some of them over at your perfect place?


20 posted on 11/15/2005 2:49:10 PM PST by RetiredArmy (I have no faith in any politician or political party any more. They all lie for their agendas.)
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