1 posted on
11/15/2005 7:05:20 AM PST by
Dan Evans
To: Dan Evans
I'm not worried about what happens if we don't run out. I'm worried about what happens if we do run out.
2 posted on
11/15/2005 7:09:05 AM PST by
Brilliant
To: Dan Evans
an anti-oil, anti-business attitude that feels our advanced capitalist society is "bad" or "wrong If windmills and solar power were the only source of power we had, they would be under attack by the left because the left is empowered by denying the necessities of life to good people. It is the same tactic used by any extortionist thug.
4 posted on
11/15/2005 7:12:44 AM PST by
Dan Evans
To: Dan Evans
This line of analysis misses a key point of the abiotic, deep-Earth theory of oil's origin. If oil is naturally produced within the Earth's mantle, oil may well be a renewable resource. We know it's naturally produced. The question is whether it's being produced fast enough for us to continue on as we are.
Personally, my theory is that it comes from outer space. The outer space idea and the deep-Earth idea may mean that if we drill deeper, we might find more, but who knows for sure? Unfortunately, we can't assume that everthing will work out, because if it does not, then there will be world wide famine. We can't feed this many people without oil.
5 posted on
11/15/2005 7:13:58 AM PST by
Brilliant
To: Dan Evans
What if we don't run out of oil? Then we're NOT DOOMED ????!!!!
10 posted on
11/15/2005 7:17:16 AM PST by
OB1kNOb
(We're gonna boogie oogie woogie til we just can't boogie no more..............)
To: Dan Evans
DOn't worry. Al Gore will save us from our oil dependency.
11 posted on
11/15/2005 7:18:37 AM PST by
MAD-AS-HELL
(Put a mirror to the face of the republican party and all you'll see is a Donkey.)
To: Dan Evans
The world is not going to run out of oil, per the USGS.
America however is in danger by having to import foreign oil. A Startegy for Achieving Independence from Foreign Oil can be found at www.tsaugust.org
12 posted on
11/15/2005 7:18:38 AM PST by
reston
To: Dan Evans
Oil=energy. If the supplies dwindle and costs rise, it will make alternative sources more attractive and economically feasible. We have been using oil for energy for less than 150 years. There is nothing to say that in the year 2100, we will still be wedded to its use.
19 posted on
11/15/2005 7:29:21 AM PST by
kabar
To: Dan Evans
In the final analysis, many on the political Left appear to have gravitated to embrace "Peak-Oil" theories because the argument that we are running out of oil fits in with their overall pattern of leftist political beliefs.Nevertheless, "Peak-Oil" makes more sense than the "Don't-worry-be-happy-the-oil-supply-is-infinite" crap that Corsi subjects us to while Big Oil continues to jack-up prices at the pump.
To: Dan Evans
22 posted on
11/15/2005 7:34:39 AM PST by
38special
(You're welcome.)
To: Dan Evans
Given a big enough bag of money, a good chemical engineer can convert any type of hydrocarbon into any other type.
Known reserves of coal, shale oil, tar sands, natural gas, and other forms of hydrocarbons far exceed known reserves of conventional crude oil (by at least an order of magnitude).
Therefore, even if production of conventional crude oil were to "peak" (which may or may not be happening), then the result is added cost to convert other types of hydrocarbons into the forms that are useful for transportation, and other applications, which today are derived from conventional crude oil.
The Germans produced gasoline from coal during World War II, and the South Africans have developed that technology much further since that time. Tar sands in Alberta Canada are being converted to useful synthetic crude oil today, as are extra-heavy oil deposits from the Orinoco area in Venezuela. Gas liquefaction plants have been announced in the Mideast. All of these efforts are very expensive as compared to conventional crude oil, but they are becoming economically feasible at today's energy cost levels.
That is why the original article (published in March, 1998 in Scientific American) on "peak oil" is entitled "The End of Cheap Oil." You may find the article here:
http://www.hubbertpeak.com/sciam983.htm
The world is not about to run out of hydrocarbons, but we are, and will be, facing higher costs to convert hydrocarbons into useful forms.
24 posted on
11/15/2005 7:35:51 AM PST by
LOC1
To: Dan Evans
It doesn't matter if we run out of oil.
We can convert to alcohol in a few years. E85 is already in motion.
To: Dan Evans
33 posted on
11/15/2005 7:55:16 AM PST by
Liberty Valance
(T for Texas and T for Tennessee)
To: Dan Evans
The critics of Peak Oil usually do not mention that the world peak has not yet arrived and there would be no effects of Peak Oil at this time. Sometime in the coming decade we will roll over the peak and then there will be effects. Some adherents of Peak Oil also do not mention that the peak is not yet here and seem to think that the effects are already being felt. Neither group seems to get the point.
42 posted on
11/15/2005 8:11:46 AM PST by
RightWhale
(Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
To: Dan Evans
"Peak oil" adherents continue to insist that oil resources worldwide are depleting.
This nonsense can be traced back to the end of WWI when the oil companies began spreading the story about the oil supply being depleted in order to drive up the price at the pump.
It's an effective strategy that has worked every time they oil companies drag it out - which tends to be about every 20 years or so.
Draw your own conclusions.
47 posted on
11/15/2005 8:20:51 AM PST by
DustyMoment
(FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
To: Dan Evans
I think we should stop using oil and turn to nuclear power. Its cleaner and produces hydrogen as a bi-product.
I'm no hippie lib. I just want the middle east to turn back into what it was meant to be, A useless dust bowl.
Let all those Arab countries go bankrupt.
58 posted on
11/15/2005 8:36:50 AM PST by
Havok
(Cooking bacon with my shirt off!!!)
To: Dan Evans
These charts don't appear to indicate we're close to running out of oil.
60 posted on
11/15/2005 8:38:42 AM PST by
Donald Rumsfeld Fan
("Memos on Bush Are Fake but Accurate". NYTimes)
To: Dan Evans
Why would anyone bother to cite anything from "The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists?" Even the lefties don't use this source anymore.
68 posted on
11/15/2005 8:52:22 AM PST by
arthurus
(Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
To: Dan Evans
Then we'll probably run out of vinegar.
89 posted on
11/15/2005 12:13:50 PM PST by
freedomlover
(This Fall a Woman will be the Mother of a Mouse)
To: Dan Evans
According to Jimmuh Dum De Dum, we are already out of oil.
99 posted on
11/15/2005 12:46:14 PM PST by
Tarpon
To: Dan Evans
121 posted on
11/15/2005 2:09:00 PM PST by
kanawa
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