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We need to redefine how citizenship is obtained.

There are congressmen who have suggested just that.

In fact, the congressmen have stated that the clause "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof," has been MISINTERPRETED to apply to any person born in the U.S. automatically becomes a U.S. citizen; however, they claim that when this was written, its intention was to assure that citizenship is bestowed only upon those people within whom U.S. JURISIDCTION resides....Specifically, I read that these words were put into place so that children born of people NOT UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE U.S., i.e., foreign diplomats, were NOT and could not be US citizens.....as the infant's parents WERE NOT UNDER U.S. JURISDICTION.

Illegal aliens, therefore, are also NOT UNDER U.S. jurisdiction, so their citizenship belongs to the country of the infant's parents.

Just in case you didn't see post#87:

""Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons."

Senator Jacob Howard,
co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866. "

The current effective federal statute, Title 8, Section 1401, first passed by Congress on June 27, 1952 and last amended on October 25, 1994, of the U.S. Code provides details on the circumstances under which persons are legally recognized by the United States to be "nationals and citizens of the United States at birth".

TITLE 8--ALIENS AND NATIONALITY

CHAPTER 12--IMMIGRATION AND NATIONALITY

SUBCHAPTER III--NATIONALITY AND NATURALIZATION

Part I--Nationality at Birth and Collective Naturalization

Sec. 1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;

(f) a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States;

In fact, the congressmen have stated that the clause "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof," has been MISINTERPRETED to apply to any person born in the U.S. automatically becomes a U.S. citizen; however, they claim that when this was written, its intention was to assure that citizenship is bestowed only upon those people within whom U.S. JURISIDCTION resides....Specifically, I read that these words were put into place so that children born of people NOT UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE U.S., i.e., foreign diplomats, were NOT and could not be US citizens.....as the infant's parents WERE NOT UNDER U.S. JURISDICTION.

If the infants parents were NOT under US jurisdiction, how then can you deport them or have any legal right to tell them what they can or can not do. Of course they under US jurisdiction. The fact that you think this is misinterpreted means nothing as long as the Supreme Court disagrees with you.