>>>What I cannot figure out is WHY in God's name freepers won't support some kind of plan to allow these people to pay a financial penalty and STAY. >>>
Because 95% of them send 95% of their income back to Mexico and gain much by our welfare system with food stamps/health care/education. Maybe if they would actually become a part of America and not have one foot in America, one in Mexico... I know personally 10 mexicans living in one house. They all work, switching out sitting the kids with different shifts. They live all in one house because they spare spending money here (and getting adequate housing and barely enough food) so they can send lots of money back to Mexico. Not helping our economy much, is it?
Oh, well, that settles it I guess. Damn greasers. Where is the SS and the gas when you need em, right? It is just UNAMERICAN to live more than 4 (5?) to a house and place other family members needs higher than your own selfish desires. Everyone knows that freedom means the obligation to be your own selfish pig. You are a poster child for everything despicable about "conservatives" (really statists who would support the IRS, higher taxes, and implementation of a police state if it would further their immigration hobby horse) in the immigration mess we have.
If the "conservatives" on the immigration threads are considered the core of true America, then we SHOULD just open the border, cause there is not much here worth saving. Silly me, thinking that the inscription on the base of lady liberty actually MEANT something.
Self reliance, self determination, freedom to try and fail and try and fail and try again, no reliance on government but a trust in the free market and freedom of speech and ideas. All these are replaced on the left by a bunch of mewling whining socialist snits, but I fear that they are simply mirrored on the "right" by a bunch of statist who think that wrapping themelves in a flag and quoting a bible verse once in a while inures them from the charge that they are simply for ceding power to the state every bit as quickly as a leftist....., just so long as it is "our" people in power. Hasn't the putrifying stench of this current republican congress taught you people ANYTHING? The problem is the centralization of power in DC, and the halfwits here are willing to aid and abet this because someone says "Buenos dias" and smells like garlic.
It is pathetic.