[chronic_loser]

NO ONE denies that we need to get control of the borders. What I find disgusting is the unwillingness to do anything but stand in a corner with your fingers in your ears howling "ILLEGAL, DEPORT, ILLEGAL, DEPORT" as if there were NO other solutions to the mess at our border. If you look at my posts you will see that I do NOT advocate a "no border" solution, but a freedom of ingress and egress based on verifiability of disease vectors, criminal background, job availablity, and paying taxes, and predicated on some kind of national "prop 200" that would deny any benefits to non-citizens (might be a foot in the door to roll back the welfare state to citizens, if we played it right!).

There are MARKET BASED FREEDOM BASED alternatives to turning us into a police state and creating our own little version of the Pali refugee camps. Can you imagine the human cost of simply dumping 10 million people off at the border? No, because you and your ilk can't think past being pissed off that you get an ATM screen that asks if you want to speak Spanish or English, and as long as they aren't here, you (I speak collectively) don't care. Not my problem. Starve for all I care.

If that is being "American" then the definition of being American has changed. It is not my America, and I will go further and say it is every bit as UNamerican as the nitwits on DU.

I would say the kinds of stuff that is said here to illegals who have signed up (at present estimates there are over 16,000 illegals who are bravely serving our country, having enlisted in the armed services, according to a Denver Post article Feb 24,2005). Many of these kids only want to be Americans, are putting it all on the line every day in Iraq and Afghanistan, so you and you band of oh-so-noble defenders of law and order can prate on about how the solution to their illegal status here can ONLY be remedied by deporting them. You would not have the balls to say it to their faces, either. But then again, maybe you would. Some of you people have no shame at all.

[flashbunny]

You start out reasonable, but then you get into emotional rhetoric that resorts to name calling because some people have the audacity to actually want to see our national security laws enforced!

Congratulations, you're picking up the slack for bayourod nicely.

Sheesh.

[chronic_loser]

I would say the kinds of stuff....

Should read I would NEVER say the kinds of stuff....

[flashbunny]

"(at present estimates there are over 16,000 illegals who are bravely serving our country, having enlisted in the armed services, according to a Denver Post article Feb 24,2005)."

They shouldn't be there. They are a security risk. If they want to join, there are mechanisms to come here LEGALLY and join.

The amount of mental gymnastics you will engage in in order to find some sort of justification for illegal aliens is staggering.

You conveniently mention the "benevolent" illegal aliens but fail to even mention the countless murders, rapes, drunk driving incidents, and illegal gang activity committed by the 'unmentionable' illegal aliens.

And then you have the gall to label people who condemn illegal activities as "unamerican" and compare them to DU.

Well guess what- one side here is espousing the same defense of illegal behavior that DU does. And it isn't me.