[stm]

"The sad huddle of affluent bedwetters, thumbsuckers, treehuggers, social climbers, homophiles, quavery ladies, and chronic petition signers that makes up the current Episcopal Church is no exception. Historic hubs like lovely Grace Cathedral in San Francisco or St. Paul's in Richmond, Virginia, have been turned into bizarre nests of homosexual and "peace" activism, complete with rainbow and peace flags hanging in the nave and lesbian and homosexual priests ramming their agenda down the throats of the congregations along with the communion wafer"........Un-freakin'-believable

[showme_the_Glory]

Those who have left the Episcopal Church....... Yep that was me and my family in 1985.

[Dane]

ping.

[BeAllYouCanBe]

But the radical minority didn't want inclusiveness... it wanted to dominate. And if success is dominating empty churches by driving out their congregations, they have succeeded.

Yes, this is the state of the Episcopal Church today large beautiful buildings void of normal people and filled with political-left-leaning, activists. I have been in Episcopal churches were everyone has left but due to endowments the churches surrive.

But there are so many organizations like this today, schools, colleges, Lame-Stream-Media, federal agencies and the state of California.

[bkepley]

A split could be the best thing that has happened to that church in a long time. I might even join the new one myself.

[STD]

The only question is why has this taken so long?

[Savage Beast]

"Fortunately a healthy religion is able to renew itself from time to time as required."

Yes. Though God and His Truth are eternal constants, man's understanding and perceptions are imperfect. God's revelations are continuous. Man's struggle for truth is a struggle for knowledge of God and His Truth, the only truth that exists, and is, furthermore, man's attempt to statisfy the most basic human drive: the desire for oneness with God.

"When it isn't, a black hole like the Islam of today results that becomes the enemy of reform and enlightenment itself."

Yes. And an obstruction to man's eternal struggle for knowledge of God and His Truth; to the continuing revelation of God's Truth to man; to man's fulfillment of the will of God; and to the fulfillment of man's fundamental lust for oneness with God.

Not to remain open to the continuous revelations of God is to reject them, which is not only blasphemy but self-condemnation.

"What a wonderful irony that Third World members of the Anglican Communion are more vital in this renewal than the Mother Church of England itself, much less the incredible, shrinking weirdo Protestant Episcopal Church of the United States."

Yes. An irony.

And a reaffermation of the universal brotherhood of man.

And an observation of the decadence of the Western Left, which, dispite its commendable openness to the ever-continuing revelation of God's truth, has succumbed to the ever-present danger of hubris and denial.