Posted on 11/15/2005 4:20:38 AM PST by CarrotAndStick
NEW DELHI, NOV 14: India sent the highest number of students to the US for the fourth year in a row. At 80,466 students in 2004-05, it was a 1% increase over the previous year’s enrolment. Open Doors 2005, the annual report on international academic mobility published by the Institute of International Education (IIE) with support from the US Department of State’s Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs, said China followed India having sent 62,523 students, a 1% increase in enrolment, after experiencing a decline of 5% the previous year.
The Republic of Korea, which remained the third leading sender for the fourth year in a row, sent 2% more students at 53,358. Japan, the fourth leading sender with 42,215 students, experienced an increase in enrollment of 3%, reversing a trend in declining enrollments that began three years ago.
Enrolments of students from Canada, the only non-Asian country in the top five, increased by 4% to 28,140. These five countries account for almost half (47%) of all international students in the US.
In 2004/05, the number of international students enrolled in U.S. higher education institutions remained fairly steady at 565,039, off about 1% from the previous year’s totals. This marked the sixth year in a row that US hosted more than half a million foreign students. This year’s numbers indicate a leveling off of enrolments, after last year’s decline of 2.4%.
Some campuses reported significant increases in enrolments while other campuses reported declines. Asia continued to be the largest sending region by a wide margin, and showed a slight increase in enrolments.
The slight overall decline in international students enrolled in U.S. colleges and universities has been attributed to several factors, including real and perceived difficulties in obtaining student visas (especially in scientific and technical fields), rising U.S. tuition costs, vigorous recruitment activities by other English-speaking nations, and perceptions abroad that it is more difficult for international students to go to the US.
From what I hear, scholarships are hard to come by nowadays. The heydays were the 80s apparently, when every other grad school applicant landed a schol. Even now, most Indian students would at most get part schols and that too in graduate studies.
In undergraduate level, there is no fin aid for int'l students to speak of. So, dont worry, you're not tax financing your own destruction. Rather, it seems the US gains the best brains worldwide for keeps.
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They travel to a foreign country and pay for the best education they can get.
Then they compete in the world market with the experience of actually understanding how great freedom and capitalism is.
Would you prefer the "stay at home in your madrassa" concept?
Indian students are also not subject to from cradle to grave US public brainwashing in lieu of Readin' Writin' and Arithmatic.
Once upon a time we were the greatest.....we have allowed the atheists and their brethern Marxists to take us down from the inside...as they are still want to do.
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Why do you talk like a communist? Does the Ministry for American Medical Personnel not assign enough American Comrades to undertake Med School for your comfort? Have the 'Ministers' actually been refusing to draft people according to their ability and your needs?
Med School is a free market infected by huge legal liabilities, and free people often make the (correct) decision that it ain't worth it to be a Dr in America these days.
Me, too. Welcome home, FRiend!
Marxism and Mohammedism are opiate ideologies. It's easy to start, and ends with death.
Medical school is not a free market. The number of admission spots in medical schools is carefully regulated by the state medical associations, and our states give them the power to do that by law.
No, many of the Indian students in America come from poorer backgrounds, from Indian villages and small towns. They take long-term loans to pay for the travel and some of the expenses.
India is a democracy. No one hand-picks anyone to go abroad to study. What you are referring to is China, where, as I can attest from some of my Chinese friends, requires a permit from a Chinese government agency.
I'll never understand why people think they have a "right" to a or any job, as if it's "theirs."
All the Indians I've met are lovely, polite, and intelligent people. We need more of you here! It's such a shame more Americans and their politicans don't realize what a powerful ally India could be.
Most got jobs with US companies. I worked in an IT shop and we hired lots of 'em. Most went on the get their Green Card and then many their citizenship.
So there's limited resources, and those resources are allocated by competition over standard entrance exams. Sounds like capitalism.
How would you fix it? If the best student is a legal alien then they should be replaced with a lower performer from Berkely?
Should Medical Schools only enroll students who promise to stay in the US when they graduate?
Yup... I considered applying for medical school not too long ago; the acceptance rate was pathetic. 1 out of 3 applicants could get in, compared to only 1 in 10 so a decade ago.
My research showed there were very good reasons for this decline. So, now, not only there are far fewer applicants, I'm sure that a lot more stupid people are cruising through med school because only an idiot, or a saint prepared to live his life with 300K in debt, would be in med school now.
Hey, Brilliant. After you answer these, you should be able to solve the problem you're complaining about. Can't wait for the solution! (NOTE: These are the kinds of questions that Chinese cadres have to manage in their command economy.)
Every Dr I know personally is a raging alcoholic. So when I have to, I go to doctors I don't know and pray a lot.
My boyfriend came to the US from India for his master's degree and got a "Teacher assistantship" scholarship. He still had to pay for room and board, since the scholarship was only for tuition. I think there was a small stipend associated with the teaching assistant job, but he went to GWU in DC, so that wasn't much considering how much rent costs in Foggy Bottom. He ended up having another job on top of being a TA and a full-time grad student.
BUT... he's here to become a citizen, because he loves the U.S.
No. Instead, we should simply offer enough openings in medical school so that we have enough doctors to satisfy the demand for health care. There are plenty of American students who would make good doctors, who are turned away because of the limited number of openings. American students have an advantage, in my view, because they speak the language, and they understand the culture from the outset. We don't need to import medical students from abroad to satisfy our needs.
I don't have a problem with foreign students coming here, though, provided that they pay their own way, and don't reduce the number of available slots for American students. Personally, I think that a doctor makes enough that he doesn't need to have his education subsidized at all.
There is a simple solution. Just have the government pass a law allowing each medical school in every state to admit twice as many students as they now admit. Tell them they aren't going to get more government funding if they do though. They are going to have to find a way to pay for it themselves.
It would take years to show dividends on that policy, since it takes years to educate a doctor. But we're not helping solve the problem by reducing the number of available medical school slots, which is what we've been doing for the last several decades, and we're not helping by importing students from overseas, giving them an education at taxpayer expense, and then sending them home.
I agree with you a large part of why the medical system is broken is because the AMA and its subsidiaries limit the number of students who can attend medical school.
Then add in the lawyers, and it really drives up the cost of medicine.
I had a hairline fracture in my wrist 2 months ago, and it's cost me over $6,500. $3,200 for the ER and $3,300 for the Orthpaedist.
In the end I could have gotten a simple wrist brace from Walgreens for 20 bucks and saved all that money.
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