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Judge blocks California Sequoia logging project
Reuters ^ | 15 Nov 2005

Posted on 11/14/2005 6:27:45 PM PST by ncountylee

SAN FRANCISCO, Nov 14 (Reuters) - A federal judge temporarily barred a logging project on Monday that would have included a small section of California's Giant Sequoia National Monument.

The plan in question would thin trees across 1,322 acres (535 hectares), of which under a quarter are within the Giant Sequoia National Monument, in an effort to protect a small local community against forest fires, said Matt Mathes, a spokesman for the U.S. Forest Service in California.

The Monument spans 328,000 acres (132,700 hectares) that are home to two-thirds of all sequoia trees in the world.

Several environmental groups sued to block the project, known as the "Ice Timber Sale", one of 11 grandfathered into a Clinton administration proclamation banning logging there starting in 2000.

In his Monday decision, U.S. District Judge Charles Breyer granted the request for an injunction, saying the project's potential effect on wildlife had not been properly considered.

"The court finds that the Forest Service has failed to show the adequate degree of care in considering this information and evaluating its impact," he wrote.

(Excerpt) Read more at alertnet.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: logging; sequoia
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1 posted on 11/14/2005 6:27:45 PM PST by ncountylee
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To: ncountylee

Lots of judge blocked articles these days.


2 posted on 11/14/2005 6:29:03 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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Well, I guess when those peoples and more houses burn; that's alright. Don't these people understand anything. You have to thin out the forest to keep it healthy. Sooner or later you may have deseased trees and than what are you going to do?


3 posted on 11/14/2005 6:32:06 PM PST by freekitty
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To: ncountylee

1300 acres is NOT that big of a spot!!

Around here, that would be a 'small farm'


4 posted on 11/14/2005 6:32:35 PM PST by digger48
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To: ncountylee
Again the eco terrorist have used the court to block a project that would save people and their property. Eco Radicals care not for people, they want humans eliminated from the earth.
5 posted on 11/14/2005 6:34:12 PM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: ncountylee

I side with the Environmentalist on this one folks sorry.


6 posted on 11/14/2005 6:37:40 PM PST by Scythian
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To: ncountylee

1,322 out of 328,000 = 0.40%


7 posted on 11/14/2005 6:39:50 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: ncountylee

I wish the damn enviros would take a flying leap.

PS - What is this hectares crap? We live in Murica, not Rome.


8 posted on 11/14/2005 6:47:51 PM PST by biff
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To: Scythian

Why would you do that? Thinning out a forest makes it FAR healthier!!!!


9 posted on 11/14/2005 6:48:48 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (FR1....Varoooooom, Varooooooom!!!)
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To: Scythian
I side with the Environmentalist on this one folks sorry.

You like forest fires, or you like to see people die? Either way that's just sick.

10 posted on 11/14/2005 6:56:21 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: ncountylee

when sequoia burns to the ground the envirowackos can just say oh well, it was natural.


11 posted on 11/14/2005 7:00:44 PM PST by kpp_kpp
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To: ncountylee
U.S. District Judge Charles Breyer granted the request for an injunction, saying the project's potential effect on wildlife had not been properly considered.

"The court finds that the Forest Service has failed to show the adequate degree of care in considering this information and evaluating its impact," he wrote.

The statute gives the Executive Branch the power to make that decision, not some wacko liberal nutcase judge who thinks he's God.

12 posted on 11/14/2005 7:03:45 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: ncountylee
For those wishing to consider the consequences, including my take on the real problem in Sequoia National Park, written in 2000.
13 posted on 11/14/2005 7:04:08 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: kpp_kpp
when sequoia burns to the ground the envirowackos can just say oh well, it was natural.


The problem is that now nothing about the forest is "natural". The current conditions of the forests cannot exist under "natural" circumstances, since forest fires would "naturally" thin the forests. We don't allow fires to "naturally" do anything anymore. This has led to badly overpopulated forests that are in extreme fire and disease danger. Nothing "natural" about any of this.
14 posted on 11/14/2005 7:06:01 PM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!!)
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To: ncountylee; forester; editor-surveyor; SierraWasp; Grampa Dave

Same play, same actors, new stage...


15 posted on 11/14/2005 7:06:10 PM PST by tubebender (Chris Matthews suffers from "IRRATIONAL EXUBERANCE"...)
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To: Scythian

Then you have to let fire play its natural role, either as wildland or prescribed fire. Most of the ecosystems in CA are fire adapted. If you look at old pictures of the Sierras, for example, most forest stands are open and parklike. Long term fire suppression has led to much heavier fuel buildup over the last 100-150 years.

Fire is a lot harder tool to control then logging, particularly if you have heavy fuel buildup as noted above (ref wildland firefighter husband). And when you are dealing with fire near communities and homes, there are air quality laws that need to be met. If people want to shut the fire down because of a smoke complaint, then they can do so by complaining to the Air Quality Control District, and there goes all the time and money you spent planning the burn, getting the equipment and people, and doing public outreach. The cost is not insignificant.
There are also safety concerns. Fire is a wonderful land management tool, but it has a large element of uncertainty and risk involved. That's why it's a tool best used away from areas with heavy human population.

If you let the fuel buildup continue, you are in essence continuing an "unnatural" condition (different tree species, changing nutrient cycling, wildlife species habitat etc), and when the fire comes, as it will, it will be larger, harder to contain, be more damaging to soil, watersheds etc (CA fire history had lots of low intensity fires, which are good for forests) and more expensive to control.

We've got a lot of catching up to do.




16 posted on 11/14/2005 7:13:02 PM PST by bordergal
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To: Scythian

"I side with the Environmentalist on this one folks sorry."

btt...

I've been there. General Sherman and General Grant trees...
Just the awesome beauty of the park is beyond my words.


17 posted on 11/14/2005 7:15:49 PM PST by Prost1 (If you fight, fight hard, fight dirty, fight to win!)
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To: bordergal
We've got a lot of catching up to do.

It's an enormous mess made worse by carbon dioxide enrichment and weeds. I've been working at it for fifteen years on my place and I'm in much better shape, but still not totally ready.

18 posted on 11/14/2005 7:29:17 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: ncountylee

Judge Breyer ,, Clinton apppointee 1997


19 posted on 11/14/2005 7:33:58 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Scythian
I side with the Environmentalist on this one folks sorry.

I take it you'd like to see a forest thousands of years old burned to a crisp because of decades of human intervention in a nearly annual fire regimen.

Not me. Log it and get that white fir out of there first. I suggest you read the links at the post above. If you want references, I've got them.

20 posted on 11/14/2005 7:37:56 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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