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Former Iraqi Detainees Allege Torture by U.S. Troops (ABC Exclusive)
ABC News ^ | November 14, 2005 | Jake Tapper & George Griffin

Posted on 11/14/2005 5:05:50 PM PST by goarmy

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To: Reactionary
I see the liberal swine at ABC are doing their best to advance enemy propaganda.

And so is this week's Newsweak cover boy, John McCain.

21 posted on 11/14/2005 5:16:32 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Request or send care packages for/to troops at www.opgratitude.com)
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To: goarmy

LOL...any time.


22 posted on 11/14/2005 5:17:22 PM PST by notfornothing
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To: goarmy

Horse. Dead. Beat. Yada, yada, yada...


23 posted on 11/14/2005 5:17:28 PM PST by cardinal4 ("One man gone and another to go....")
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To: goarmy
Time for a repost!Hey ABC News Ask Me if I Care
24 posted on 11/14/2005 5:19:30 PM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: goarmy

These pecker heads came away with their heads still attached, F them and Ted Swimmer too.


25 posted on 11/14/2005 5:21:09 PM PST by boomop1
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To: Hank All-American
Yeah...Rummey tortures me everytime he sees Jf'nKerry and doesn't kick the crap out of him.

FMCDH(BITS)

26 posted on 11/14/2005 5:21:19 PM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: unionblue83

No-computer-at-home PING!!!


27 posted on 11/14/2005 5:24:10 PM PST by goarmy ("I wouldn't piss on an ACLU lawyer if he were on fire." -notfornothing)
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To: goarmy

This is the standard screed from the anit-american left. It's right out of the al-queda training manual.

http://www.usdoj.gov/ag/trainingmanual.htm


28 posted on 11/14/2005 5:28:38 PM PST by skimask (Whatever happens it's Bush or Roves' fault.)
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To: goarmy

my letter to ABC News




Dear Sir:

Regarding your story, http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1312282 , about two Iraqis being tortured, inter alia, by being threatened by lions at the Republican Palace in August 2003, surely a modicum of research would have informed you that the lions had been removed long before then. See, e.g., http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20030426/world.htm .

I request that you air a correction pointing out that the story is unlikeley.


29 posted on 11/14/2005 5:29:31 PM PST by Wisconsin
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To: goarmy

30 posted on 11/14/2005 5:32:33 PM PST by zarf (It looks just like a Telefunken U-47!)
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To: goarmy

This is the new playbook. Try to tie up the war leadership in court. Its a win-win for the Anti-war Left. Even if the administration avoids going to court over this, Rumsfeld's good name is dragged throught he mud, and its a wonderful propaganda opportunity, a gift that keeps on giving.

You don't even have to be able to prove anything you have charged, you simply demand access to classified information in order to make your case; if there is no evidence, you charge that the administration is engaged in a coverup.

Meanwhile the administration is made to look as if it is a punch-drunk boxer swaying on its feet, which should be easy given the complicity of a corrupt and hostile press.

The best answer is to make it clear that these charges will not be adjudicated in civil courts. Soldiers are under military law, and will be judged in military courts. The proceedings will not be public.

If it never happened, the administration should be forthright in saying that it never happened. Be bold, be unapologetic. The people who are against the war already think you're guilty, and they are against the war whether you are guilty or not, so they don't matter. The people who are for you will give you the benefit of the doubt. They don't expect you to be perfect, they expect you to fight.

Keep carrying the fight to the enemy, boldly confront the liars in the press, and the patriot crowd will be there for you right down to the end.


31 posted on 11/14/2005 5:32:40 PM PST by marron
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To: goarmy
But after the Abu Ghraib prison abuse scandal — according to the Pentagon's own investigations — it is irrefutable that U.S. forces have tortured detainees

If you define torture as pretty much what goes on during a fraternity initiation, then yes it is irrefutable.

But if you define torture the way the law does, it is pretty damn refutable.

32 posted on 11/14/2005 5:34:19 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: goarmy
But after the Abu Ghraib prison abuse scandal — according to the Pentagon's own investigations — it is irrefutable that U.S. forces have tortured detainees

If you define torture as pretty much what goes on during a fraternity initiation, then yes it is irrefutable.

But if you define torture the way the law does, it is pretty damn refutable.

33 posted on 11/14/2005 5:34:19 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: theDentist

I was just thinking, "OK, so what's the problem?"


34 posted on 11/14/2005 5:51:48 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: notfornothing

I'd be quite happy to demonstrate real torture for any ACLU lawyer willing to participate.


35 posted on 11/14/2005 5:52:12 PM PST by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again? How'bout a double sarcasm for this one)
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To: goarmy
If they'd been tortured, they'd be dead.

If they'd been picked on in the cafeteria, they'd have the ACLU suing the school.

If they'd been released to go home, they'd be dead (in Jordan, blowing up Sunni wedding guests).

If I gave a rats butt about their well being, I'd shoot myself.

36 posted on 11/14/2005 5:56:40 PM PST by norton (it IS about the CIA and it IS about CYA...)
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To: ladyinred
Dear God! Can these leftist scum get any more anti American?

Unfortunately, you ain't seen nothing yet!

37 posted on 11/14/2005 5:56:45 PM PST by appleharvey
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To: goarmy

Ah come on! Everyone knows that lions are just for Christians.


38 posted on 11/14/2005 6:05:45 PM PST by tiki
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To: marron
What needs to be done is for the Administration and others to start playing the game.

We're baddies for "torturing" our enemies? That isn't half as bad as supporting them. And that's exactly what the leftists are doing.

39 posted on 11/14/2005 6:07:44 PM PST by Reactionary
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To: goarmy
Bog rot.

Can't we just quit pretending these whining sand scabs are human beings and exterminate them? Do they teach ANY manly virtues in that culture, or is it owned lock, stock, and camel by repressed bed-wetters and scrawny girly-boys who beat up on women and cornhole their juniors?

40 posted on 11/14/2005 6:09:55 PM PST by IronJack
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