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Kilgore Learns the High Cost of Compromise
http://va.familypolicy.net ^ | 11/15/05 | Joe Glover

Posted on 11/14/2005 1:19:28 PM PST by cope85

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1 posted on 11/14/2005 1:19:29 PM PST by cope85
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To: cope85

Kaine comes in when things are good. I'm betting that he leaves when things are bad.


2 posted on 11/14/2005 1:22:44 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: cope85

Republican Party's next


3 posted on 11/14/2005 1:22:46 PM PST by cope85
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To: cope85

surprised he didnt blame bush like forrester


4 posted on 11/14/2005 1:25:02 PM PST by philsfan24
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To: cope85

Don't tell the BushBots... we must meet in the middle to get the "moderate" vote *rolling eyes*


5 posted on 11/14/2005 1:27:51 PM PST by mosquitobite (What we permit; we promote.)
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To: cope85

The lesson of all US elections since 1994:

RINO = LOSER


6 posted on 11/14/2005 1:28:48 PM PST by thoughtomator (Bring Back HCUA!)
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To: cope85
Kilgore almost immediately began making decisions in light of his chances of becoming Governor.

Too damned many elected officials get into office with only one of two agendas, staying in office at all costs or advancing their political careers and ignore the job they were elected to do.

7 posted on 11/14/2005 1:31:59 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: cope85

Interesting take but I still maintain, in my professional political opinion, that Kilgore lost because he abandoned a supposedly "lost cause" Northern Virginia. A lackluster campaign in an off-year cycle dominated by bad news was destined to fail.

If you cannot motivate your base, how do you expect to motivate the legislature to pass a budget?


8 posted on 11/14/2005 1:32:44 PM PST by brothers4thID (Do you stand with us, or are you going to just stand in the way?)
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To: cope85

So what do you call Kilgore's loss for social conservatives - a Pyhrric loss?

You guys must be taking strategy lessons from the French army. :)


9 posted on 11/14/2005 1:35:50 PM PST by anymouse
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I agree! And then they sell us out to the highest liberal bidder, to the sounds of the swooning MSM. We are being ruled by an aristocratic politcal class that is killing this Republic.


10 posted on 11/14/2005 1:38:21 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delenda est publius schola)
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To: cope85
When asked if he would veto tax increases, Kilgore responded by saying yes. Russert responded by saying "That's a hypothetical".
Laughter broke out...........

All Kilgore had to do at that moment was to say to Russert: That is NOT a hypothetical question, Mr. Russert. You of all people should know how much the democRATS like to raise taxes. Therefore, the question is NOT hypothetical.

If Kilgore has said that, he'd be the Governor today.

His campaign was abysmal. Some of the dumbest commercials ever on T.V., and far too negative.
My favorite "stupid" ad, was the one where Kilgore said: "If elected Governor, I'll bring jobs to Virginia". DUH?????

Virginia already has the 3rd LOWEST unemployment rate in the U.S.A. at 3.5%.
There are already more jobs here than there are people to fill them.

His campaign was way out of touch with reality. Although I voted for him, I was less than thrilled about it!!
11 posted on 11/14/2005 1:46:08 PM PST by GeorgeW23225 ("Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal")
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To: cope85

Jeez, Loweez, I had no idea he was such a schmuck. My mailbox was bombarded by appeals from his campaign committee. Had I known all this I would have told them to go jump.

What is it with these people? After several decades worth of countless examples of watered-down, milquetoasted republicans cutting their own throats, so many ostensibly smart guys are unable to study recent history and realize that republicans only win when they stand on conservative principles (on the campaign trail AND in office). Craven pandering and difference-splitting simply will NOT work for republicans. Democrats are so much better at that game.


12 posted on 11/14/2005 1:46:22 PM PST by sinanju
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To: TruthConquers

Our founding fathers made a couple of mistakes when they wrote the Constitution. First, they didn't put in term limits for politicians. Second, they didn't put in a constitutional provision for killing the politician who yearly proposes the most spending.


13 posted on 11/14/2005 1:46:23 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: GeorgeW23225

You are spot on!


14 posted on 11/14/2005 1:51:59 PM PST by wouldntbprudent
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To: cope85

I hd a lengthy conversation yesterday with a friend who is a longtime conservative activist in Northern Virginia. He told me that he mobilized hundreds of volunteers last year for President Bush; this year he went to the same group of people and NONE of them would volunteer for Kilgore. Not one! The Kilgore campaign completely ignored Northern Virginia, ran on issues that actually hurt Kilgore there, and ignored people like Tom Davis and Frank Wolf who know how to win elections in NOVA. The RNC came in with its high-tech GOTV effort in the last 3 days, but their lists were so bad that some voters got 25 calls and some got none. This campaign was a disaster from start to finish. It's no surprise to me that Kilgore got his rear end handed to him.


15 posted on 11/14/2005 2:02:43 PM PST by Dems_R_Losers (The Kerry/Lehane/Wilson/Grunwald/Cooper plot to destroy Karl Rove has failed!)
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To: sinanju
Jeez, Loweez, I had no idea he was such a schmuck.

I've known him for over 20 years, I can tell you personally, he's not a schmuck. He ran a bad campaign. He took some bad advice. That's the extent of it.

The Joe Glovers of the world wouldn't be happy if the Apostle Paul was the candidate.

16 posted on 11/14/2005 2:04:19 PM PST by Corin Stormhands
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I've known him for over 20 years, I can tell you personally, he's not a schmuck. He ran a bad campaign. He took some bad advice. That's the extent of it.

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Well, the gist of the article was that he started going mushy from the moment he set his sights on the governor's office. I would like to know who he has had advising him. I know it wouldn't be the first time campaign managers and publicity flacks have been damned for ruining their candidates.


17 posted on 11/14/2005 2:11:19 PM PST by sinanju
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The founding fathers of Virginia DID impose term limits. At least at the Gubernatorial level.
Four years, one term, and you're out. As soon as we have a Conservative Republican Governor elected, I'd like to see that law repealed :-)


18 posted on 11/14/2005 2:32:35 PM PST by GeorgeW23225 ("Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal")
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To: Corin Stormhands

I'll go one step further. Jerry Kilgore is a great guy, and would have made a great Governor. I do NOT blame Jerry for any of this. I TOTALLY blame the idiots who ran the campaign.


19 posted on 11/14/2005 2:35:51 PM PST by GeorgeW23225 ("Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal")
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The name of the head idiot is Ken Hutcheson. I blame him.
He was the Kilgore campaign manager. Only the names of Donna Brazile and Susan Estrich comes to mind for running a worse campaign!!

Some way, some how, Hutcheson managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Basically, all Kilgore had to do is smile and keep his mouth shut, and he would have won by over 200,000 votes. UNBELIEVABLE!!
20 posted on 11/14/2005 2:41:00 PM PST by GeorgeW23225 ("Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal")
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