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(New Israeli Labor leader) Peretz fronts bill to pay off settlers (to leave Judea, Samaria)
The Jerusalem Post ^ | 14 November 2005 | SHEERA CLAIRE FRENKEL

Posted on 11/14/2005 11:13:42 AM PST by anotherview

Nov. 14, 2005 18:38 | Updated Nov. 14, 2005 18:45
Peretz fronts bill to pay off settlers
By SHEERA CLAIRE FRENKEL

In a move that stirred controversy among MKs of all parties, newly elected Labor Party chairman Amir Peretz submitted a Knesset bill Monday that would grant compensation to West Bank settlements where 60% of the residents left voluntarily.

In a statement accompanying the bill Peretz wrote that he intended to create "incentives for the continuation of voluntary evacuation of the Israeli citizens located in Judea and Samaria.”

"[The disengagement] was a concrete example of the nation's ability to establish a compensation framework appropriate to those residents who were evacuated from their homes," wrote Peretz.

The bill was co-sponsored by Labor MKs Yuli Tamir and Ilana Cohen, who have often been criticized along with Peretz for dovish policies.

“This is a political step, he is trying to reach out for votes he think he can get,” said a Shas MK who asked not to be named. “This bill won’t ever reach the state where we vote on it. MK Uri Ariel (National Union) also responded calling the bill “a shame."


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amirperetz; compensation; disengagement; gaza; israel; judea; labour; palestinians; peretz; samaria; settlements; settlers; westbank; yesha
In light of how the Palestinians have responded to the Gaza disengagement (more terrorism, weapons smuggling) this isn't the time to be talking about giving them more land. This is the time to put a stop to terror -- militarily.

Peretz is move Labour ever further leftward, and to an even greater defeat in the next election.

1 posted on 11/14/2005 11:13:45 AM PST by anotherview
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2 posted on 11/14/2005 11:17:22 AM PST by anotherview ("Ignorance is the choice not to know" -Klaus Schulze)
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If 60% did take the offer, I can't invision the cost of this.

At least he didn't suggest offering palestinians compensation to settle in Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria, even the majority that already live there. That would be forced transfer.

3 posted on 11/14/2005 11:19:47 AM PST by SJackson (People have learned from Gaza that resistance succeeds, not smart negotiators., Hassem Darwish)
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To: anotherview
"[The disengagement] was a concrete example of the nation's ability to establish a compensation framework

So why are there still so many families still unemployed, homeless, uncompensated AND STILL OWEING MORTGAGE PAYMENTS ON THE HOMES THEY WERE THROWN OUT OF???????

4 posted on 11/14/2005 11:20:11 AM PST by Alouette (Gaza: Too small to be a country, too large to be an insane asylum (thanx: Pettigru).)
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5 posted on 11/14/2005 11:43:38 AM PST by Alouette (Gaza: Too small to be a country, too large to be an insane asylum (thanx: Pettigru).)
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To: anotherview
It seems to me it would make more sense to compensate those who leave voluntarily regardless of how many of their neighbors choose to do so. Combined with the removal of settlers found guilty of incitement against the Palestinians, Israel could slowly make the situation less volatile, in advance of the inevitable, though still quite premature, disengagement on the West Bank.

-Eric

6 posted on 11/14/2005 12:11:14 PM PST by E Rocc
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To: E Rocc

How would you pay for this? Where is the money to come from?

Why would this not simply encourage more terrorism since it comes on the heels of a disengagement punctuated by terrorism?

I'm sorry, but this is where you and I part company. Right now what Israel needs is a very firm and forceful military response to Palestinian terrorism, not more actions which would be seen as concessions. We have no partner for peace on the Palestinian side. Abbas is no different from Arafat. That should be painfully obvious to everyone by now.


7 posted on 11/14/2005 12:18:07 PM PST by anotherview ("Ignorance is the choice not to know" -Klaus Schulze)
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To: anotherview

Isreal is slitting its own throat.


8 posted on 11/14/2005 1:14:04 PM PST by PsyOp (Men easily believe what they want to. – Caesar, De Bello Gallico, III, 18.)
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Isreal is slitting its own throat.

No, we are not. Amir Peretz does not speak for Israel. I'd bet dollars to donuts (or shekels to sufganiyot) that he will be beaten badly in the upcoming election. His views will NEVER become Israeli government policy.

9 posted on 11/14/2005 1:34:13 PM PST by anotherview ("Ignorance is the choice not to know" -Klaus Schulze)
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To: anotherview

"No, we are not."

I'd say that giving up Gaza and not not demanding that the Palis make concrete moves towards peace before Isreal makes more concessions says otherwise. Netanyahu (sp?) was correct in his approach. Every Isreali leader since has fumbled the ball. IMHO.

If the present course is continued, Isreal is history. I wish to be proved wrong on this, but I don't see it.


10 posted on 11/14/2005 2:21:06 PM PST by PsyOp (Men easily believe what they want to. – Caesar, De Bello Gallico, III, 18.)
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To: anotherview
I'm sorry, but this is where you and I part company. Right now what Israel needs is a very firm and forceful military response to Palestinian terrorism, not more actions which would be seen as concessions. We have no partner for peace on the Palestinian side. Abbas is no different from Arafat. That should be painfully obvious to everyone by now.
I agree that firm miltary responses to terrorism are needed. I don't agree with punishing the PA for the actions of Hamas et al. Unless and until those organizations formally join the process, they are fair game. But attacks on "infrastructure" do nothing to stop attackers that need no infrastructure.

Who pays? Don't be suprised if it ends up being the Saudis eventually. In the short run, lower security costs should make up for a lot of it.

I'm not convinced Abbas is the answer, either. I'm also not convinced he isn't (though I have more confidence in Dahlan). President Bush wasted no time cutting Arafat cold, and both he and Rice (who cut YA even colder) both appear to be willing to give Abbas the benefit of the doubt.

-Eric

12 posted on 11/15/2005 3:54:05 AM PST by E Rocc
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To: E Rocc; All; goarmy

Until Abbas can take a strong stand and stop the militants within HIS OWN party then I don't think Israel should cease or desist anything. The more land Israel gives up, the more the Hamas' et al. crowd believes that what they're doing is right. This will also help them recruit. The last thing that Abbas should do is to ignore the tumor of Hamas and disarm them by force if necesary (which will more than likely be necessary). And, let's all hope that Saudi money isn't involved because it always comes with Wahabbist strings attached.


13 posted on 11/15/2005 4:27:22 AM PST by unionblue83
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To: E Rocc

How about punishing the P.A. for the actions they themselves take. They are funding the al-Aksa Martyrs Brigade who are still carrying out terror attacks. Definition of the PA == terrorists in nice suits. I am now at the point where, if nothing changes soon, I feel the PA will have to be dismantled as yet another terror organization.


14 posted on 11/15/2005 6:26:08 AM PST by anotherview ("Ignorance is the choice not to know" -Klaus Schulze)
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Peretz is a terrorist.

You win the award for most stupid statement I have seen today. Tell me, anyone who has political views you don't like is a terrorist, is that it? I think Peretz is wrong about almost anything and verything, but he hasn't killed anyone, has he?

15 posted on 11/15/2005 6:27:28 AM PST by anotherview ("Ignorance is the choice not to know" -Klaus Schulze)
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To: anotherview
You win the award for most stupid statement I have seen today.
Apparently he managed an even dumber one, and rode the lightning.

As for the PA, you might be right about Abbas. Still, I haven't seen conclusive evidence of same and I tend to trust President Bush on the matter. Certainly they have a lot to prove before Israel should even consider any more large scale territorial concessions.

-Eric

16 posted on 11/15/2005 6:42:40 AM PST by E Rocc
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