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To: little jeremiah

It makes perfect sense - I know what morality is (and is not), I approve of moral behavior, and so I can look with approval on a quotation that extols morality. Some of the grammar is also very nice, as you point out. No conflict at all... (However, you should probably read my "lovely" with half a dash of sarcasm - the real point of my post was to reject your off-topic appeal to authority.)


154 posted on 11/16/2005 2:28:40 PM PST by A. Goodwin
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To: A. Goodwin

Why were the quotes off topic? We were discussing morality. I brought in some quotes supporting my point of view. Some founders of the this country, and some other thinkers.

Not only not off topic, but agreeing with my position; that is, that morality is absolute. If morality is whatever any individual speculates about, then society quickly becomes a dog eat dog, might makes right anarchy. Why? Because one person's morality is someone else's bestiality. And if those bestiophiles don't like that other people disapprove or even prevent their sexual flings (say, with MY dog, for instance), then if said bestiophile has more money or a position of authority, he will force his immorality on me.

As is happening, right now, via hate crimes/hate speech laws in other countries. And shaking the gates here.

So called "moral relativity" just means that some people want to call immorality morality. Just photo negative values. Not relative at all, that's just a smokescreen. And if someone objects that moral absolutes are religious based and therefore wrong/unconstitutional or whatever, every religion in the world has basically the same moral absolutes. They are indeed universal. And without promoting them, our once great country will become totalitarian in a couple of generations.


167 posted on 11/16/2005 3:09:24 PM PST by little jeremiah
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