[Exigence]

Translation: We wanted to insert into science class a bogus distinction made only in creationist talking points and not by real scientists in the peer-reviewed literature.

There are real scientists holding real doctrates from real universities who are endorsing these standards. Just because someone disagrees with the god of naturalism does not make them "unreal" scientists to the intellectually honest parties in a debate. That is an ad hominem attack, but, unfortunately, par for the course...

[orionblamblam]

> Just because someone disagrees with the god of naturalism ...

Do you understand how silly that makes you look?

[VadeRetro]

There are real scientists holding real doctrates from real universities who are endorsing these standards.

Gish has a degree in engineering. Behe is a real biochemist. Wow! That's one. Wells got some sort of biology degree to help Papa Sun Myung Moon destroy Darwinism from within. That's two. Johnson is a lawyer.

Yeah. Just call them the experts and ignore the world.

[Chiapet]

There are real scientists holding real doctrates [sic] from real universities who are endorsing these standards. Just because someone disagrees with the god of naturalism does not make them "unreal" scientists to the intellectually honest parties in a debate. That is an ad hominem attack, but, unfortunately, par for the course...

Perhaps you should look up the definition of "ad hominem." The sentence that you were responding to is not an ad hominem attack, but actually addresses a substantive issue. Hint: ad hominem is a personal attack to distract from the substance of the topic being argued.

And before you say it, yes, I realize that the sentence implied a distinction between "real scientists" and the advocates of the KSB standards. However, this is, in fact, one of the substantive issues in this context.

[highball]

Just because someone disagrees with the god of naturalism...

Yet another example of a creationist trying to insult evolution by calling it a religion. Tells you a lot about them....