Hoplite, as I said before, you obviously have not done any independent investigation into the facts and therefore are forced to rely solely on the allegations of the first Gotovina indictment in order to debate me. Unfortunately, in your rush to respond to me, you did not fully investigate the charges of your most recent post. First, the "39 of 97" victims listed in the first indictment against Gotovina do not appear in the second indictment against Gotovina. Do you know why? Obviously not. First, some of the "murder victims" of Gotovina were in fact discovered to be ALIVE AND WELL AND LIVING IN SERBIA AND BOSNIA, respectively. See, e.g. Bosiljka Beric and Mirjana Beric in the annex to the first Gotovina indictment. Second, the remainder of the alleged victims were killed in areas that, it turns out, were not part of the territory which Gotovina was responsible for, but rather were part of the territory of General Petar Stipetic in the Sector North. General Stipetic has been exonerated of these incidents by Carla Del Ponte, so one can conclude that these individuals were in fact NOT MURDERED. Third, there is no evidence whatsoever that has been published by anyone, including Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International, that any soldier under Gotovina's command committed any crime. The fact that the indictment alleges broadly that every person walking the territory of Sector South in Croatia was part of the "Croatian armed forces" and therefore under Gotovina's charge is ridiculous, and is just as discredited at this point as the charge that Gotovina "murdered" people who are in fact alive. The fact is, Hoplite, Gotovina is innocent. And the fact is, you are ill equipped to debate the specific facts of the Gotovina indictment at this point. It would take you years to catch up. I invite you to do so. Until then, however, I suggest that you refrain from attempting to disguise your inadequate preparation for this debate by starting a flame war with words like "apologist," and conclusory statements like "Gotovina is a war criminal."
That was the original indictment, and here's the amended indictment:
COUNT 2
(MURDER)
28. Between 4 August 1995 and 15 November 1995, Croatian forces murdered at least 150 Krajina Serbs by means of shooting, burning or stabbing. Specifically referred to in this Amended Indictment are the murders of 1 person in the Benkovac Municipality, 30 persons in the Knin Municipality, and 1 person in the Korenica Municipality.
Listed in the Schedule, attached hereto, are further particulars of such murders.
29. Between 4 August 1995 and 15 November 1995, the accused Ante GOTOVINA knew or had reason to know that forces under his effective control were about to murder Krajina Serbs as described in paragraph 28 above, or had done so. The accused Ante GOTOVINA failed to take necessary and reasonable measures to prevent the commission of such acts or punish the perpetrators thereof.
By these acts and omissions, the accused Ante GOTOVINA did commit:
Count 2: a VIOLATION OF THE LAWS OR CUSTOMS OF WAR, namely Murder, as recognised by Common Article 3(1)(a) of the Geneva Conventions of 1949, punishable under Article 3 read with Article 7 (3) of the Statute of the Tribunal.
Gee - I wonder what schedule they're talking about? A train schedule, perhaps?
No, they're referring to the original schedule, aren't they Ezekiel, and you're the one who's not up to snuff on what's going on, inasmuch as what's going on is that the rest of the world isn't interested in your revisionism and desire for immunity for heroes from the Fatherland war or whatever you call it.
If the Berics are alive, great, 2 down, and only 95 to go to take care of count 2.