[SoothingDave]

The fact is that the TOE proponents themselves state that there is no God in control and everything developed by random chance. I don't see a straw man at all.

But that's not what Catholics are saying. What we are saying is that God may have (may have, mind you) used evolutionary evolving in the way He created the world. There is nothing in the scientific record which precludes a Creator being the driving force behind seemingly "random" occurences.

SD

[little jeremiah]

Yes, but if the events are not really random, then that completely undercuts the TOE basic claims.

Really gotta run now!

Fascinating discourse. You've read "Shattering the Myths of Darwinism" or "Darwin on Trial"?