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THE CATHOLIC CHURCH EMBRACES EVOLUTION!!!!
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| 11.14.2005
| Kevin McCullough
Posted on 11/14/2005 5:12:54 AM PST by jodiluvshoes
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I hate to see this happen. I think it may be the beginning of a large rift between evangelicals and catholics on the culture war, and we need each other to stay involved.
To: jodiluvshoes
The Catholic Church has never believed in a literal translation of the Bible.
To: jodiluvshoes
Pish-tosh. One Cardinal's personal opinion is not an official teaching of the Catholic Church, any more than my personal opinion is.
The MSM is cranking up these stories practically weekly, for the specific purpose of creating confusion ... just as they publicise every goofball who wants to talk about how "Christian" homosexuality is.
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posted on
11/14/2005 5:15:14 AM PST
by
Tax-chick
(I'm not being paid enough to worry about all this stuff ... so I don't.)
To: jodiluvshoes
Sorry, as a Catholic, I was never taught that evolution didn't occur.
Genesis was taught as metaphor. Something happened to God's creation through man's fall, but just what, we don't know.
The fact remains that man fell.
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posted on
11/14/2005 5:18:02 AM PST
by
OpusatFR
To: OpusatFR
The Church permits a variety of interpretations.
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posted on
11/14/2005 5:19:02 AM PST
by
Tax-chick
(I'm not being paid enough to worry about all this stuff ... so I don't.)
To: Tax-chick
"The Church permits a variety of interpretations."
I don't believe that is an accurate statement. In fact, I believe the truth is exactly opposite. The Church teaches that only the Church can provide accurate interpretations.
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posted on
11/14/2005 5:24:31 AM PST
by
Rokke
To: Rokke
Then I'm afraid you've been misinformed. On many matters of Biblical interpretation, the Church permits a variety of interpretations, unless they conflict with authoritative rulings. For instance, the "interpretation" that the universe is the result simply of random chance, with no action of God's, is not within the bounds of permitted opinion, if one claims to be teaching the Catholic Faith.
For some areas of Scripture, the Church has determined that one interpretation is accurate, and others are erroneous, but these cases are far fewer than those for which various opinions may be held.
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posted on
11/14/2005 5:29:00 AM PST
by
Tax-chick
(I'm not being paid enough to worry about all this stuff ... so I don't.)
To: OpusatFR
Agree. there is nothing in the theory of evolution that precludes a Creator.
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posted on
11/14/2005 5:29:49 AM PST
by
Kozak
(Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
To: jodiluvshoes
This isn't exactly news. There have been a couple of threads on it already.
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posted on
11/14/2005 5:30:45 AM PST
by
js1138
(Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
To: ContraryMary
The Catholic Church has never believed in a literal translation of the Bible.I agree, at least when I went to Catholic school in the '40s and '50s that was the case. Darwin was accepted as not in conflict with the Bible. We were taught that God created everything but worked within the laws of nature and science that He created. We also learned that the Bible was full of metaphors that could be applied to life today. If we took everything literally, they were simply strange miracles of the time and had no real application today.
To: jodiluvshoes
"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth; and the earth was without form, and void, and darkness was on the face of the deep..."
"In the beginning was the word; and the word was with God, and the word was God..."
"...a day with God is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as a day..."
(note: from memory, did not google up the Bible)
Scientific proofs of evolution do not debunk the Bible, nor does the Bible deny the validity of science. God set it in motion, whether six thousand years ago or four billion.
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posted on
11/14/2005 5:33:08 AM PST
by
JimRed
("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?")
To: jodiluvshoes
In fact Cardinal Paul Poupard, head of the Pontifical Council for Culture said that "if the Bible were read correctly" that the Genesis description of how God created the universe and Darwin's theory of evolution were "perfectly compatible."
Yeah, except that God created the plants before he created the sun and it would be kind of hard for plants to survive for any length of time without sunlight. They could've made it for a day without it, which is why the six day creation really is six days. If you subscribe to the creation worldview, I don't see how you could come to any other conclusion by the reading of Genesis.
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posted on
11/14/2005 5:43:22 AM PST
by
JamesP81
To: JimRed
a day with God is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as a day
2 Peter 3:8 IIRC. However, also IIRC, 2 Peter 3:8 is not addressing the creation account in any way. Hebrew can be written in one of two ways; narrative and poetic. The two forms are easily distinguishable by sentence structure (as I'm not a linguist, I have to take the word of the rabbis who did the study. I don't have the link on hand, but I imagine a google search could turn it up). Genesis 1 is clearly written in the narrative format and was meant to be taken literally.
Furthermore, every single time in the Bible the Hebrew word for day (yom) is used in connection with a number outside of Genesis, it has always, 100%, without fail meant a literal 24-hour period. It stands to reason that since Genesis 1 is narrative and since yom was used in connection with numbers that the writer of Genesis meant for it to be taken absolutely literally.
See Christiananswers.net
There is no middle ground with the Bible. Either God created the Earth in 6 days, or the Bible is wrong.
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posted on
11/14/2005 5:57:27 AM PST
by
JamesP81
To: All
Can you blame them?
To believe in creationism would be to believe in a creator which would make us accountable to someone.
What fun is that?
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posted on
11/14/2005 5:58:26 AM PST
by
j_k_l
To: jodiluvshoes
They see the need to expand...in mind and in body...for soul cleansing and also for profit. Since there is hardly any land to conquer and people to convert forcefully, why not * give in * ,somewhat, to new ideas...they have a business to run.
it's not like we have the original copy of the Bible on in our midths...times change, so do people.
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posted on
11/14/2005 6:06:46 AM PST
by
kajingawd
(" happy with stone underhead, let Heaven and Earth go about their changes")
To: JamesP81
You forgot possibility number 3: JamesP81 is wrong.
To: ContraryMary
"The Catholic Church has never believed in a literal translation of the Bible."
Yes, otherwise they would not disregard Jesus' command to "call NO man your father."
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posted on
11/14/2005 6:17:43 AM PST
by
Sensei Ern
(Now, IB4Z! http://trss.blogspot.com/)
To: jodiluvshoes
I hate to break it to you, but their already is a tremendous rift between Catholics and evangelicals. Jesus used metaphor and parable to make points in the sciptures, and the book of Genesis is no different. Do you really believe the world was repopulated by the two animals that survived on the ark? That is genetically impossible and that fact can be proven. One cannot continue a species from just a single pair. Also, how did the giant earthworm from the Australian subcontinent make it all the way to Noah's boat and back again. It can't swim. Perhaps it was carried by the African swallow?
Evangelicals and Catholics share many moral and theological beliefs, a tremendous respect for life being one of them. There are also a great many differences. Some of the seminal research on Cepheid Variable stars was done at a Catholic observatory by monks. This data provided additional support for the expanding universe theory "big bang". If I recall, Pope John Paul the Great met with Stephen Hawking and did not find the big bang theory in contradiction to church teachings.
To: Sensei Ern
Perhaps the Catholic Church should go back to persecuting scientists who believe the world is round and that the earth is the center of the universe and that heavier objects fall faster than lighter objects.
The Catholic Church has never been,nor ever will be a reliable source of scientific understanding. At least they stopped doing the whole blood-letting thing.
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posted on
11/14/2005 6:25:20 AM PST
by
Sensei Ern
(Now, IB4Z! http://trss.blogspot.com/)
To: All
It didn't take long for them to come out of the woodwork!
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posted on
11/14/2005 6:27:34 AM PST
by
OpusatFR
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