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1 posted on 11/14/2005 12:45:12 AM PST by Crackingham
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I don't agree with Rozell. Kilgore ran a terrible campaign and if he lost, it had nothing to do with the illegal immigration issue.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

2 posted on 11/14/2005 1:03:30 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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You also must factor in the Werner coat tails. Werner is a very popular Governor here in VA. The Immigration issue was not a decisive issue as far as I can tell, it gained him nothing and cost him nothing. Russ Potts was also a problem; while not large enough to be given credit for defeat or victory his campaign did have some effect even if it is difficult to quantify.
3 posted on 11/14/2005 1:27:58 AM PST by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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You could see this coming.
Thanks to low interest rates and the housing boom, the parasites are escaping the cities but voting the same way (Democrat) they did when they were destroying their cities. In other words, they fouled their nests and now they're fouling everybody else's.


7 posted on 11/14/2005 1:46:24 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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Kilgore's campaign stunk up the place. I would NEVER vote for a Rat at this point, but even I found Kaine's lying campaign and disingenuous ads more appealing than Kilgore's.

Also Warner has been a pretty stealthy Rat and not too bad a governor.

IMHO, can't read much into Kilgore losing. At the state level, the Republican party in Virginia is still trying to recover from previous debacles (Gilmore, Early, etc.).


13 posted on 11/14/2005 5:07:10 AM PST by wouldntbprudent
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In 2004, the new hotbed of Republican voters was the outer suburbs, the so-called exurbs on the distant outskirts of a central city, packed with tract housing, strip malls, chain stores, a megachurch or two, and thousands and thousands of middle class and lower middle class families.

I thought these exurbs are more of an upper middle class phenomenon.

The question is whether his emphasis on illegals might have been seen as unfriendly to immigrants, especially by the large immigrant communities in the two counties.

So it's not about exurbs at all but race/immigration.

Attacks on immigration work in theory but often not in practice.

It's true. Part of the Pavlovian conditioning of the population that even though 3/4ths of a population might say immigration is excessive in polls they won't vote for even reasonable controls for fear of being labeled racist. Voting is where the rubber hits the road and they can't bring themselves to incur the disapproval of their masters. There's a real Stockholm-type of psychological dependence and submission going on there.

15 posted on 11/14/2005 12:13:13 PM PST by jordan8
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Roads are the BIGGEST issue here in NoVA - start the research there ...


16 posted on 11/14/2005 12:17:17 PM PST by 11th_VA (Geezee Freepin Peezee ...)
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Instead of "Revolt of the Exurbs", this should be called
"Urban Vomitus".

What is happening is that urban liberal Dems, having soiled their own pigsytes and created a totally unlivable mess, are vomiting themelves forth into the suburbs and even rural areas, bring the same pestilence that created so much damage in the cities with them.

This is one of the reasons I support no growth in the suburbs and countryside. Keep the Dmes locked up in the cities where they belong, and where, hopefully,, their own twisted philosophies will make an end of them.


19 posted on 11/14/2005 12:24:17 PM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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Another exurber for Bush.


20 posted on 11/14/2005 12:26:41 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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