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And the Winners Are . . . . . . VA's Gov. Warner, AZ's Sen. McCain, and CA's government unions.
WSJ ^ | Nov. 14, 2005 | John Fund

Posted on 11/13/2005 9:58:04 PM PST by FairOpinion

Everyone agrees that Democrats did well and Republicans were chastened in last week's elections. But beyond that there were clear winners and losers. But who were the winners? Let's focus on three clear ones: Virginia's Gov. Mark Warner, Arizona's Sen. John McCain and California's government employee unions.

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If Mr. Warner is basking in newfound attention in his party, Mr. McCain is getting new respect from Republicans as President Bush's approval numbers continue to weaken.

He (McCain) says the public is fed up with "fight gang" politics and wants bipartisan solutions, such as the agreement that 14 senators, including Mr. McCain, made last May not to filibuster judicial nominees except in "extraordinary circumstances."

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It seems eons ago that Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger stood astride California politics. Only last February he had a 65% approval rating and seemed likely to roll over his state's Democratic Legislature by calling a special election to implement his reform agenda through the initiative process. But he didn't count on the clout--and cash--of the state's public employee unions, which represent 55% of the government workers in the Golden State, significantly more than the 37% national figure.

Steve Malanga of the Manhattan Insitute says that public-sector unions are now at the center of a new left-wing coalition of "tax eaters," which consist of everyone whose livelihood depends in large part upon government regulation, employment or entitlements. AFSCME, one of the more powerful public-sector unions, has grown from only 100,000 members in 1955 to over 1.4 million today. This year it helped vault Antonio Villaraigosa, a former organizer for a teachers union, into the office of Los Angeles mayor. Another union organizer, Fabian Nunez, is the new speaker of the California Assembly.

(Excerpt) Read more at opinionjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: capropositions; johnfund; markwarner; mccain; mccain2008; schwarzenegger; specialelections; warner; warner2008
The Dems won, because the Republicans let them. Shame on all the Republicans and conservatives who stayed home or actually voted with the Democrats.

Note in the last paragraph of the excerpt, how the public unions are basically running CA and picking who gets elected.

1 posted on 11/13/2005 9:58:06 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

..or actually voted with the Democrats.

Would you care to define that? on a single initiative, 2 ,3 , 4, lol

You had to get a dig in on someone, huh? anyone , it seems..


2 posted on 11/13/2005 10:05:03 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NormsRevenge

Prop. 76.


3 posted on 11/13/2005 10:12:56 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

Oh, the one that had a borrow 5 billion more dollars gimmick built into it.. I'd have preferred 75 myself, we already have Prop 58 and a "fiscal conservative" in the Gub's office, yaknow.


4 posted on 11/13/2005 10:15:25 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: FairOpinion
Mr. McCain is getting new respect from Republicans

I really want to see evidence for this support. Is he leading in the primary? If McPain wins the Republican primary, I will vote Hillary! :-) His support for a supposedly anti-torture amendment should doom any chance he has for winning the primaries.
5 posted on 11/13/2005 10:16:02 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: FairOpinion
He (McCain) says the public is fed up with "fight gang" politics and wants bipartisan solutions, such as the agreement that 14 senators, including Mr. McCain, made last May not to filibuster judicial nominees except in "extraordinary circumstances."

Here's McCain, singing to himself in a mirror again. We are fed up with him and fight gang politics.

6 posted on 11/13/2005 10:16:15 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: FairOpinion
Even if he [Mark Warner] stumbles in the primaries, don't be surprised if the New York senator woos him to join her ticket in hopes of snagging Virginia for the Democratic column.

I'm not sure what Warner would do for a Clinton/Warner ticket. Sure, he'd bring Virginia's electoral votes--assuming that the GOP doesn't run George Allen. I'm not sure he'd allow Hillary to pick up any of the other southern red states. But I am unconvinced that Hillary could hold all of the blue states. Kerry barely took some of them, and it's hard to believe that Hillary would have an easier time.

Does anyone think that Hillary/Warner would win a bigger share of the vote in Minnesota than Kerry/Edwards?

7 posted on 11/13/2005 10:17:10 PM PST by freespirited
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To: indianrightwinger

"His support for a supposedly anti-torture amendment should doom any chance he has for winning the primaries."


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One would hope.

I personally think that nobody in their right mind should vote for McCain. I think the Dems are pushing him, to split the Republican party.


8 posted on 11/13/2005 10:23:00 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: freespirited

"Does anyone think that Hillary/Warner would win a bigger share of the vote in Minnesota than Kerry/Edwards?"

Who won Minnesota? K-E, yes?




9 posted on 11/13/2005 10:25:45 PM PST by John Robertson ( Safe Travel)
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To: FairOpinion

Well the Dem DUmmies will regret when McPain loses the Primary and runs as an independent. In that scenario, the Dems will be the big losers because they will be the McPain voters.

Every scenario I can envision with McPain in the picture, conservatives win. Any thoughts?


10 posted on 11/13/2005 10:34:25 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: FairOpinion
"Mr. McCain is getting new respect from Republicans"

McPain in my arse may be getting respect but I doubt that much of it is coming from Republicans
11 posted on 11/13/2005 10:48:09 PM PST by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: indianrightwinger

Perot (and the silly people voting for him) gave us Bill Clinton, McCain may well give us Hillary Clinton, if he runs as an independent.


12 posted on 11/13/2005 10:55:32 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
The Dems won, because the Republicans let them. Shame on all the Republicans and conservatives who stayed home or actually voted with the Democrats.

Why are you and others still parroting this MSM/Dem spin?

(1) Dems "won" two Governor slots THAT WERE ALREADY DEM...

(2) MSM/Dems refuse to mention the shellacking they received in Ohio on those ballots...

(3) California is...well California, but Arnold did a great job nevertheless...

(4) And finally, these are local races, hardly blips on the national radar, totally irrelevant to 2006 or 2008

13 posted on 11/13/2005 11:01:45 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Harmful or Fatal if Swallowed)
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To: FairOpinion

Perot actually ran as a fiscal conservative. McPain plans to run as a "let us all sing kumbaya", and will only peel off Democratic and Moderate voters. Imaging a Allen/McPain/Hillary race. Who do you think the conservatives will solidly back? Who will back McPain vs. Hillary?


14 posted on 11/13/2005 11:02:36 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: FairOpinion

McCainiac, respect? Dream on WSJ.


15 posted on 11/13/2005 11:03:10 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: indianrightwinger
When Fund began having hissy fits over Meiers it became clear he'd lost his way.

He thinks McCrazy has new respect from republicans????????????????????

16 posted on 11/13/2005 11:57:54 PM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: FairOpinion

The polls that are only now being reluctantly discussed show that by a 2 -1 margiin Americans don't care how the information is obtained from terrorists. Just get the information!!!


17 posted on 11/13/2005 11:58:53 PM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: indianrightwinger

"Every scenario I can envision with McPain in the picture, conservatives win. Any thoughts?" I actually see McCain enabling Hillary to squeak in like Perot did with Bill in 92. My brother is wishy-washy but usually votes Republican but he would probably vote for McCain running as a third party candidate. I am afraid many more Republicans than Dems might also after the Dems run camapign ads about McCain' voting record re abortion


18 posted on 11/14/2005 1:16:06 PM PST by fifedom
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