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To: jb6

"He said this would mean more engineers are hired in India than in the U.S. over the next three years."

and people wonder and attack me (and others) when I post that american kids are bailing out of these engineering college programs as fast as they can. this is an example of why.

stuff like this, is "under the radar" with regards to why Bush polls so poorly on the economy - it doesn't get talked about much, but for people who work in this field and see this every day, its there.


2 posted on 11/13/2005 4:59:47 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview

Fully agreed. Big Business has given up on the concept of nations. They consider normal workers in western countries as usefull and replaceable idiots, to be replaced by cheaper workers in upcoming "nations", until they scuttle them for some other current Fourth World nation. Big Business is unpatriotic. Their god is the buck.


3 posted on 11/13/2005 5:04:40 PM PST by seppel
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To: oceanview
Unfortunately, Americans have been bailing out of engineering/cs/math/science for some time (probably to become lawyers). I don't think that you can just blame offshoring.

Also, keep in mind that companies like Cisco are probably going to see most of their growth by selling overseas. It makes sense that a certain percent of their development would be done over there.

7 posted on 11/13/2005 5:12:51 PM PST by ottothedog (Forbes 2008)
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To: oceanview
it doesn't get talked about much, but for people who work in this field and see this every day, its there.

And the higher ups wonder why morale is so low among their best and brightest developers. Giving them an extra months salary so they can go to Bangalor and train their replacement doesn't help very much.

I work for a large consulting company that has a very large contract with a major Telecom player. For some reason they believe saving 10 to 15 bucks an hour on highly skilled labor will cut the bottom line. What you really get is buggy software that has to be released quarterly and there's no such thing as an emergency release. Nimbleness and flexibility be damned. I'd really hate to be a Project Manager with all Indian developers in Bangalor.

We've got two lists at work. One is for the people who's jobs have gone overseas, and the other is of people who have quit since the outsourcing was announced. Guess which one is longer. The real irony is that a lot of the developers who have quit or had their jobs shipped to Bangalor are Indian.

35 posted on 11/13/2005 6:35:19 PM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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