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To: CarolinaGuitarman
Then I assume there was a reason you falsely claimed it was the basis of dialectic materialism and was responsible for Communism?

I did, and I stand corrected. I believe the link was actually Das Kapital (Historic Materialism) being inspired in some way by Origin of Species. Marx was a fan of Darwin..it appears the admiration was not completely mutual.

My point was not so much to tarnish Darwin, or his work, but point out the link.

I think we probably agree more than disagree on this subject:

Evolution, as a theory based on observation of nature is perfectly deductive

Like Hegel and Wagner, Darwin, (and Christ for that matter) bare no responsibility with the twisted nutters that expanded on their ideas.

Any theory describing the nature and cause of creation becomes religion..and should be treaty equally as such.

Where we may differ is whether or not certain public school curriculum "jump the shark" with evolution, and start preaching "random origins" of life. At that point I call BS, it becomes a creation mythology, requires a leap of inductive faith, and is therefore a religion of it's own.

The trouble isn't evolution, but the liberals who use it.

527 posted on 11/14/2005 3:56:15 PM PST by Dead Dog
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To: Dead Dog

"I did, and I stand corrected. I believe the link was actually Das Kapital (Historic Materialism) being inspired in some way by Origin of Species. Marx was a fan of Darwin..it appears the admiration was not completely mutual."

The Communist Manifesto was published 11 years *before* Darwin's treatise.

Moreover, the most immediate use of Darwin's theory was by folks like Herbert Spencer and their "Social Darwinism", whereby life's winners and losers were judged to have gotten their just desserts as a result of social forces.
Kind of the opposite of the socialist/communist view.

"Like Hegel and Wagner, Darwin, (and Christ for that matter) bare no responsibility with the twisted nutters that expanded on their ideas."

Exactly. Darwin doesnt prove capitalism, communism or social darwinism 'right' or 'wrong'. It merely posits survival itself as the 'guidance' mechanism of the evolutionary process.


544 posted on 11/14/2005 5:53:15 PM PST by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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